Former OC Kellen Moore - Discussion

[jamrock]

Most seemed to want to keep moore. And that he was scapegoated.

Most fans? You know the old saying, when you listen to the fans you’ll up in the stands with them

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Sorry if posted already
Moore in Gruden's camp.
Weirdly ironic how Gruden brings up Rivers out of no where.

https://youtu.be/NKGXIEiruX8

Worth the watch. Thanks for posting, 21 & 500

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

Why didn’t Telesco and Spanos convince Lynn to fire George Stewart and hire someone else instead?

George Stewart was the cargo that Anthony Lynn refused to jettison, basically ensuring that Lynn's ship would sink.

Absolutely *no* discernable defense for retaining Stewart's services after the monumentally disastrous results his units produced.

[rensoul]

https://theathletic.com/4148057/2023...e-coordinator/
5. Moore referring to pushing the ball “downfield” should be a welcome sight to Chargers fans. Over Lombardi’s two seasons, Herbert ranked 35th of 38 qualified quarterbacks in air yards per attempt, according to TruMedia. With Herbert’s arm talent, there is no reason he should rank that low. Some of it is Herbert’s propensity to move through his reads quickly and get to his check down. But ultimately it is up to the coaching staff to put Herbert in positions in which he is encouraged to make those types of throws.

A big part of this conversation, too, is personnel. The Chargers need to add more speed at receiver so they can access these areas of the field more consistently and dangerously. Moore spoke rather refreshingly about what speed can do to an offense.

“Speed is always dangerous. We certainly have seen that throughout this league, and when you do have speed, it certainly is a huge advantage,” Moore said. “You hope that you can find a way to create those opportunities still from a schematic standpoint. But speed, you can’t coach. Speed’s very special. Certainly you want some of it. Every guy doesn’t need it. There’s plenty of ways of playing football. But certainly when you do have it, it’s a nice little advantage to be able to utilize.”




It's nice to hear a coach state the obvious without the word salad BS about speed not being that important.
If I'll take anything from the first two years of the Lombardi/Staley era is the approach on offense was one of the most bizarre and incompetent things I've seen coaches do with a player in regards to their development in quite awhile.

What they did to Herbert was like taking a young Dan Marino in his second year and instead of giving him a fast guy like Mark Duper, telling him hey, speed isn't that important so we know you can throw deep and have a cannon for an arm but we want you throwing horizontally instead and we're going to surround you with slow players and have you throw at one of the lowest yards per attempt in the entire league.

[Maniaque 6]

Lombardi is an idiot or what ?

[Charge!]

https://theathletic.com/4148057/2023...e-coordinator/
5. Moore referring to pushing the ball “downfield” should be a welcome sight to Chargers fans. Over Lombardi’s two seasons, Herbert ranked 35th of 38 qualified quarterbacks in air yards per attempt, according to TruMedia. With Herbert’s arm talent, there is no reason he should rank that low. Some of it is Herbert’s propensity to move through his reads quickly and get to his check down. But ultimately it is up to the coaching staff to put Herbert in positions in which he is encouraged to make those types of throws.

A big part of this conversation, too, is personnel. The Chargers need to add more speed at receiver so they can access these areas of the field more consistently and dangerously. Moore spoke rather refreshingly about what speed can do to an offense.

“Speed is always dangerous. We certainly have seen that throughout this league, and when you do have speed, it certainly is a huge advantage,” Moore said. “You hope that you can find a way to create those opportunities still from a schematic standpoint. But speed, you can’t coach. Speed’s very special. Certainly you want some of it. Every guy doesn’t need it. There’s plenty of ways of playing football. But certainly when you do have it, it’s a nice little advantage to be able to utilize.”




It's nice to hear a coach state the obvious without the word salad BS about speed not being that important.
If I'll take anything from the first two years of the Lombardi/Staley era is the approach on offense was one of the most bizarre and incompetent things I've seen coaches do with a player in regards to their development in quite awhile.

What they did to Herbert was like taking a young Dan Marino in his second year and instead of giving him a fast guy like Mark Duper, telling him hey, speed isn't that important so we know you can throw deep and have a cannon for an arm but we want you throwing horizontally instead and we're going to surround you with slow players and have you throw at one of the lowest yards per attempt in the entire league.

Agree!.... Ive been saying this for years..... There is a reason Reid keeps drafting speed receivers EVERY year.....if you keep drafting them, you will find some good or great ones....

[ChargersPowderBlue]

George Stewart was the cargo that Anthony Lynn refused to jettison, basically ensuring that Lynn's ship would sink.

Absolutely *no* discernable defense for retaining Stewart's services after the monumentally disastrous results his units produced.

Remember the "reassigned" thing? That's awful and funny at the same time.

[Heatmiser]

Thanks 21&500! Moore was already coaching before he got drafted. Impressive even then.

During the on the field piece can see why he did not make it. Arm talent just not there, But he is really smart.

In addition to the Rivers reference, the WR did the Ekeler air guitar.

TG

PS Gruden really is a cartoon character. He is just unbelievable

[21&500]

Thanks 21&500! Moore was already coaching before he got drafted. Impressive even then.

During the on the field piece can see why he did not make it. Arm talent just not there, But he is really smart.

In addition to the Rivers reference, the WR did the Ekeler air guitar.

TG

PS Gruden really is a cartoon character. He is just unbelievable

Specifically, that anticipation throw Gruden broke down, damn impressive. He was leading a creative offense as a college kid and I don't think it's a coincidence that his Dallas offense has scored the second most points behind only KC in the last 4 years.
KM could potential be a true Xs n Os savant and really have found his "inner QB incarnate" in Herbert.
Fouts had Coryell
say what you will about Norv but he was that to Rivers.
now Herbert has Moore.

[21&500]

Agree!.... Ive been saying this for years..... There is a reason Reid keeps drafting speed receivers EVERY year.....if you keep drafting them, you will find some good or great ones....

100%

[powderblueboy]

Schottenheimer got into a fight with AJ and tried to hire his brother as DC.

Why didn’t Telesco and Spanos convince Lynn to fire George Stewart and hire someone else instead?

They may well have demanded that Lynn fire Stewart;
reassigning Stewart to the meaningless position he assumed the final year was the compromise.

I guess we'll never know; however, Lynn is made of sterner stuff than Staley.

I'd like to know what went into the Willhoit firing other than collectively the defense being a disappointment last year.

[powderblueboy]

If Wonderbread was a person it would be Kellen Moore

He's part of the youth brigade here.

The next coaching staff will all be teenagers if the trend continues.

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