Former OC Kellen Moore - Discussion

[dmac_bolt]

Shula is really the only extremely successful head coach. It doesn’t strike me as some magical football factory, more like guys know each other and they have an effective alumni network. The old people hire people they’re comfortable with and hence you have something like the Rooney rule. I’m not convinced these are the best people. Telesco is an alumni and he hired Staley who also has a connection to John Carrol. Should he have hired Daboll instead? Probably yes. Josh McDaniels and Nick Caserio are both John Carroll guys. Smarmy little mfr’s. Neither successful once they left NE and Belichick.

you want to talk about a real impactful football factory? Look no further than San Diego in the 60’s. Sid Gilman, Don Coryell, John Madden and Al Davis. All coaching together in the same city

Didn’t Joe Gibbs come from the Montezume Factory too?

[jamrock]

Didn’t Joe Gibbs come from the Montezume Factory too?

Yes, you are absolutely correct. Only adds to the luster.

[Boltjolt]

Seems many here are giving Steichen accolades for being the OC to help the Eagles reach the SB but one ex Eagle is glad he is gone and is upset he wasn't utilized right there.

Miles Sanders isn't happy he was under used in the SB. He only had 7 carries in the SB and wasn't happy he wasn't utilized in the passing game more in recent seasons, including last season.

But, with Hurts running too much (this is my opinion, Sanders didn't say this)when his 1st progression and maybe 2nd isn't open, he took off instead of checking down.

https://www.nfl.com/news/rb-miles-sa...gn=Twitter_atn

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Seems many here are giving Steichen accolades for being the OC to help the Eagles reach the SB but one ex Eagle is glad he is gone and is upset he wasn't utilized right there.

Miles Sanders isn't happy he was under used in the SB. He only had 7 carries in the SB and wasn't happy he wasn't utilized in the passing game more in recent seasons, including last season.

But, with Hurts running too much (this is my opinion, Sanders didn't say this)when his 1st progression and maybe 2nd isn't open, he took off instead of checking down.

https://www.nfl.com/news/rb-miles-sa...gn=Twitter_atn

Sanders may have a point but I don't see how this reflects poorly on Steichen.
If that's the argument, I'd call it a stretch imo.

[Lefty2SLO]

Lol., Dean and Son have hired HCs with far less experience than that.

Like Staley . . . . . . . . .

Moore's price tag would appeal to ownership, Harbaugh's most definitely would not. Not hard to figure out which way they would go.

EDIT: We really need new ownership . . . . . . . .

[jamrock]

Seems many here are giving Steichen accolades for being the OC to help the Eagles reach the SB but one ex Eagle is glad he is gone and is upset he wasn't utilized right there.

Miles Sanders isn't happy he was under used in the SB. He only had 7 carries in the SB and wasn't happy he wasn't utilized in the passing game more in recent seasons, including last season.

But, with Hurts running too much (this is my opinion, Sanders didn't say this)when his 1st progression and maybe 2nd isn't open, he took off instead of checking down.

https://www.nfl.com/news/rb-miles-sa...gn=Twitter_atn

Sanders had his best season in 2022 and they moved on from him. He’s salty that he didn’t get a lot of looks in the Super Bowl but 7 for 16 doesn’t scream give him the ball to me. KC was focused on stopping the run game of the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I wouldn’t bitch too much about Steichen if I was Sanders. Bottom line, Steichen is a better OC than Lombardi and Staley made a mistake not keeping him around.

[Boltjolt]

Sanders may have a point but I don't see how this reflects poorly on Steichen.
If that's the argument, I'd call it a stretch imo.

I'm not saying it reflects poorly on Steichen but rather he isn't exactly the savant some are calling him here since they went to a SB. Even more so since he left after plenty of posters wanted him gone from here. I'm sure there would be complaints here as there were when he was here.

[Boltjolt]

Sanders had his best season in 2022 and they moved on from him. He’s salty that he didn’t get a lot of looks in the Super Bowl but 7 for 16 doesn’t scream give him the ball to me. KC was focused on stopping the run game of the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I wouldn’t bitch too much about Steichen if I was Sanders. Bottom line, Steichen is a better OC than Lombardi and Staley made a mistake not keeping him around.

They also didn't use him in the passing game much after his rookie year when he had 50 receptions. I'm not arguing at all that Lombo was better than Steichen lol. He could have done better and I don't blame him for not retaining Steichen. Let the HC pick his staff.
This place is just weird. Complain when they are here, praise when they aren't. We'll see how well he does in Indy.

[dmac_bolt]

Sanders had his best season in 2022 and they moved on from him. He’s salty that he didn’t get a lot of looks in the Super Bowl but 7 for 16 doesn’t scream give him the ball to me. KC was focused on stopping the run game of the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I wouldn’t bitch too much about Steichen if I was Sanders. Bottom line, Steichen is a better OC than Lombardi and Staley made a mistake not keeping him around.

Well said. You could have opened with this and then stopped.

[richpjr]

I'm not saying it reflects poorly on Steichen but rather he isn't exactly the savant some are calling him here since they went to a SB. Even more so since he left after plenty of posters wanted him gone from here. I'm sure there would be complaints here as there were when he was here.

There are complaints about every coordinator on every team by fans. I too remember that there were an awful lot of posters here who were happy to move on from him and the selective memory is kicking in with the Eagles having some success. Most coordinators would look good calling plays with that line and running game to go along with a really good D. It will be interesting to see how the Eagles look this year with a new OC and how the Colts look under Steichen as he is planning on calling the plays there.

[dmac_bolt]

There are complaints about every coordinator on every team by fans. I too remember that there were an awful lot of posters here who were happy to move on from him and the selective memory is kicking in with the Eagles having some success. Most coordinators would look good calling plays with that line and running game to go along with a really good D. It will be interesting to see how the Eagles look this year with a new OC and how the Colts look under Steichen as he is planning on calling the plays there.

This. There was much less concern about him leaving when he left.

[Velo]

Spiller is going to be Ezekiel Elliot.