Former OC Kellen Moore - Discussion

[sonorajim]

I'm going to guess it's on the lower side of 42-48%.

Last year: Chargers run/pass was 36.2/63.8%.

Where I'd like to see them run better/more is in the redzone. Their redzone scoring (TD) rate was @ 54.55%
For comparison, Dallas led the league with a 71.43%. Followed by KC (71.08) and Philly (68.00).

https://www.fftoday.com/stats/22_run_pass_ratios.html

https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/red-zone-scoring-pct

Moore's Dallas O- 48.9R/ 51.1P
Granted we're not Dallas. I just don't believe Moore will be comfortable without a reliable run game. I believe he was talking about OL run blocking when he said we will find some things we do well. Playing the D like an accordion and controlling game tempo are two benefits.
I'm comfortable with my guess. We'll have to wait & see.

[HerbieParadigm]

The reality hiding in plain sight for me is GM and HC know they must beat Fat Andy 2 out of 3 times, w/last game being in playoffs, in order to be a Charger employee next year. Also Moore’s recent comments about “Amplifying Herbert” (my expression not his) after seeing him live making throws. I see balance more as making short, medium, long, & Herbert long throws not running the rock. Rather the line from Gladiator comes to mind when Staley & Moore instruct Herbert to “Unleash Hell”.

[richpjr]

The reality hiding in plain sight for me is GM and HC know they must beat Fat Andy 2 out of 3 times, w/last game being in playoffs, in order to be a Charger employee next year. Also Moore’s recent comments about “Amplifying Herbert” (my expression not his) after seeing him live making throws. I see balance more as making short, medium, long, & Herbert long throws not running the rock. Rather the line from Gladiator comes to mind when Staley & Moore instruct Herbert to “Unleash Hell”.

I think in the end that if we don't make the playoffs and win at least one game, we'll have a new GM and head coach next year, likely Moore. I don't think it matters who we beat to do that, though beating KC and winning the division certainly would go a long way towards continued employment.

[jamrock]

There sure is a lot of hope pinned on Moore being able to transform the Charger offense. We are basically running it back on personnel, hoping for good health and Kellen Moore to turn what was often a painful offense to watch into a juggernaut. It’s a tall order.

[gzubeck]

There sure is a lot of hope pinned on Moore being able to transform the Charger offense. We are basically running it back on personnel, hoping for good health and Kellen Moore to turn what was often a painful offense to watch into a juggernaut. It’s a tall order.

Why? Steichen did it with duck tape and bubblegum. If healthy (Our offensive Players) should be 20% better than the players Steichen had to work with. IMHO!

[richpjr]

There sure is a lot of hope pinned on Moore being able to transform the Charger offense. We are basically running it back on personnel, hoping for good health and Kellen Moore to turn what was often a painful offense to watch into a juggernaut. It’s a tall order.

Not sure how tall of an order that really is. Herbert is healthy. The offensive line will be better. We have added a lot of speed at WR this year with Johnston, Guyton back and Davis. That alone would have made even Lombardi's offense better. Adding in a more creative and aggressive play caller makes me very optimistic about what our O can do. With reasonable health (historically an issue with us) we should be a top 5 scoring offense.

[dmac_bolt]

Why? Steichen did it with duck tape and bubblegum. If healthy (Our offensive Players) should be 20% better than the players Steichen had to work with. IMHO!

Steichen’s offense won, what, 7 games? Not blaming him, but the offensive roster might be > 20% better now. OL certainly is.

I agree with you, Moore will get this high speed Lightning Express train up to Mach 1, teams better watch out down track from us. They will be tempted lay down on the tracks to try and stop the Lightning Express, that will be about as effective as laying on tracks sounds like it would be.

Nothing will stop the Moore Express

[powderblueboy]

I think in the end that if we don't make the playoffs and win at least one game, we'll have a new GM and head coach next year, likely Moore. I don't think it matters who we beat to do that, though beating KC and winning the division certainly would go a long way towards continued employment.

If they go 12 - 5, showing more life in the regular season then the previous 2 years,
and then lose a tough game in the playoffs on the road against a contender,

I can see Staley returning.


Not a fan of stumbling around all year, punch drunk,
and then shooting yourself in the foot repeatedly against a non-contender that final game;

nor am I a fan of setting low bars, just so Staley can bunny hop over it
and get a big hug at the end.

[21&500]

Steichen’s offense won, what, 7 games? Not blaming him, but the offensive roster might be > 20% better now. OL certainly is.

I agree with you, Moore will get this high speed Lightning Express train up to Mach 1, teams better watch out down track from us. They will be tempted lay down on the tracks to try and stop the Lightning Express, that will be about as effective as laying on tracks sounds like it would be.

Nothing will stop the Moore Express

All aboard!!
choo choo!!

[powderblueboy]

Not sure how tall of an order that really is. Herbert is healthy. The offensive line will be better. We have added a lot of speed at WR this year with Johnston, Guyton back and Davis. That alone would have made even Lombardi's offense better. Adding in a more creative and aggressive play caller makes me very optimistic about what our O can do. With reasonable health (historically an issue with us) we should be a top 5 scoring offense.

Aside from lacking proven depth at rb,
they seem better situated on offense than in any year i can recall.

Achilles heal is a banged up Ekeler/Linsley.

The declining health of Pouncey in 2018 very well might have cost them the division,
and sent them to New England.

[jamrock]

Aside from lacking proven depth at rb,
they seem better situated on offense than in any year i can recall.

Achilles heal is a banged up Ekeler/Linsley.

The declining health of Pouncey in 2018 very well might have cost them the division,
and sent them to New England.

Aside from injuries they did nothing to address their principal problem on offense which is the lack of any real running game. No juice at RB just Ekeler who is one more year bitter and the hope that Spiller or Kelley becomes something other than they have been. Don’t forget Moore had the 1-2 punch of Pollard and Elliot. We’re punchless

[powderblueboy]

There sure is a lot of hope pinned on Moore being able to transform the Charger offense. We are basically running it back on personnel, hoping for good health and Kellen Moore to turn what was often a painful offense to watch into a juggernaut. It’s a tall order.

Those two years of Lombo are fused into your brain jamrock.

Confusing defenses is actually permitted in the NFL .... you do realize offensive coordinators are permitted to do that?

The personnel is rock solid with a few stars.