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Originally posted by Steve
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There needs to be a lot of improvement from within for the Chargers to do better. The thing that separates a lot of teams and the Chargers is other teams do a better job of getting closer to the maximum amount out of each player.
As far as Allen goes ... how does it make sense to take the most consistent ( or at least the 2nd most consistent) offensive weapon away from our QB if the team/offense is built around the QB? Mike Williams is a good WR#2, but you can't build an offense around him and expect him to get 100 catches. He is hurt too much,if for no other reason.
We won't get anything for Bosa or Allen anyway. There is no trade value for guys getting paid that much. Chubb got the Donks a bunch in trade value, but he was still on his rookie deal. And if we are going to get rid of Bosa, we might as well get rid of Mack as well. 1 edge rusher is pretty much useless because just like Bosa and Mack have seen the last 2 years, they will draw all the attention and be chipped and doubled to death. You have to have the pair of edge guys, and we don't. Sometimes you can get lucky and draft a guy, but it is only recently that rookie pass rushers are coming out of college with enough polish to be productive out of the gate. Pass rushers hit their prime about the end of their rookie deal.
Cutting Allen would just leave a huge gap in our O. Who would Herbert throw to? Everett had a career year, but even then he was only as good as Jared Cook was, and Cook had a couple of very good games before he hit the over-30 wall/end-of-career wall. Sure, Carter, Guyton, and Palmer are all decent 3rd WR, but none of them is a clear #1 or #2 WR at this point. They could be solid starters in an offense that runs the ball more and throws a lot less, but you can't throw them into an offense that throws 40-50 times a game and think we are going to be a very good offense. We need some more/better offensive weapons, but unless there is some reason to think Allen is at the end of the road, it is a little early to get rid of him. We might not re-sign him to an extension or another deal, but if we want to be competitive we need him.
The other thing that people seem to be forgetting is that we don't have to cut anyone to get under the cap. According to Over The Cap (https://overthecap.com/restructure), we can give ourselves around $36.5 million in cap space through simple restructuring. That is above and beyond the $23.6 million we are in the hole now. That does not include any cuts or extensions. We can clear even more if there is more complicated restructuring. In short, while there is a little to worry about, it is not a huge problem. Not so much we get rid of our #1 WR without a replacement in hand.
The big response is that restructuring is not something the Chargers typically do!!!! It is not. But the Chargers typically don't go on big-money FA spending sprees either. If you decide to go on the spending spree, the playing with funny money thing was already the only response to make. The decision was made last year, it is not a decision that is yet to be made.
As far as Allen goes ... how does it make sense to take the most consistent ( or at least the 2nd most consistent) offensive weapon away from our QB if the team/offense is built around the QB? Mike Williams is a good WR#2, but you can't build an offense around him and expect him to get 100 catches. He is hurt too much,if for no other reason.
We won't get anything for Bosa or Allen anyway. There is no trade value for guys getting paid that much. Chubb got the Donks a bunch in trade value, but he was still on his rookie deal. And if we are going to get rid of Bosa, we might as well get rid of Mack as well. 1 edge rusher is pretty much useless because just like Bosa and Mack have seen the last 2 years, they will draw all the attention and be chipped and doubled to death. You have to have the pair of edge guys, and we don't. Sometimes you can get lucky and draft a guy, but it is only recently that rookie pass rushers are coming out of college with enough polish to be productive out of the gate. Pass rushers hit their prime about the end of their rookie deal.
Cutting Allen would just leave a huge gap in our O. Who would Herbert throw to? Everett had a career year, but even then he was only as good as Jared Cook was, and Cook had a couple of very good games before he hit the over-30 wall/end-of-career wall. Sure, Carter, Guyton, and Palmer are all decent 3rd WR, but none of them is a clear #1 or #2 WR at this point. They could be solid starters in an offense that runs the ball more and throws a lot less, but you can't throw them into an offense that throws 40-50 times a game and think we are going to be a very good offense. We need some more/better offensive weapons, but unless there is some reason to think Allen is at the end of the road, it is a little early to get rid of him. We might not re-sign him to an extension or another deal, but if we want to be competitive we need him.
The other thing that people seem to be forgetting is that we don't have to cut anyone to get under the cap. According to Over The Cap (https://overthecap.com/restructure), we can give ourselves around $36.5 million in cap space through simple restructuring. That is above and beyond the $23.6 million we are in the hole now. That does not include any cuts or extensions. We can clear even more if there is more complicated restructuring. In short, while there is a little to worry about, it is not a huge problem. Not so much we get rid of our #1 WR without a replacement in hand.
The big response is that restructuring is not something the Chargers typically do!!!! It is not. But the Chargers typically don't go on big-money FA spending sprees either. If you decide to go on the spending spree, the playing with funny money thing was already the only response to make. The decision was made last year, it is not a decision that is yet to be made.
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