Thoughts On Cutting Keenan Allen?

[ghost]

All I know is this - the Eagles took a 7 zip lead and the Chiefs answered pretty quickly. The Chiefs didn't have one third down.
How many drives did the Chargers have this year where it seemed they needed to convert multiple third downs to score

The Chargers need to improve the offense while also trying get about $40m of cap. So from a cap perspective - Allen is the easiest to work with. JJ Watt was released two years ago by the Texans and he was a better player for Houston than Allen for the Chargers. It happens - older higher priced players get released.

OT Chiefs - Did you notice the two TD passes that Mahomes threw were simple routes that were designed to look like the WRs were crashing down to run block the defensive end. The route stopped reserved course into a flat route, and Mahomes hit on both of these: first on the right, then on the left. God damn.

[Bolt4Knob]

OT Chiefs - Did you notice the two TD passes that Mahomes threw were simple routes that were designed to look like the WRs were crashing down to run block the defensive end. The route stopped reserved course into a flat route, and Mahomes hit on both of these: first on the right, then on the left. God damn.

Every organization can play the hindsight is 20/20 game. But Mort reported that Andy Reid wanted to coach the Chargers. I get it was that time when they hired Ron Wolf to lead a committee to hire Telesco and Mike McCoy. But dammit to heck, Andy Reid as head coach would have been a game changer. Not sure if the Chargers never called him or the Hunt family said Big Andy is not leaving KC - but what a good coach he is

He is so creative on offense. Seems like he has a lot of fun too. The plays out of the huddle. How he is in the locker room. Multiple GMs from Dorsey to Ballard to now Veach - guy understands the NFL. Not bad for an old TE coach .

[Boltgang74]

OT Chiefs - Did you notice the two TD passes that Mahomes threw were simple routes that were designed to look like the WRs were crashing down to run block the defensive end. The route stopped reserved course into a flat route, and Mahomes hit on both of these: first on the right, then on the left. God damn.

When ya got a top tier QB it puts the success of said team squarely on the coaching staff,GM,and basically ownership.I think its great because all the pressure is on them to succeed or be proven losers like most of us already know them to be.Do I hope they prove us wrong?Of course I do,do I think they will?Weeeeeeelllll....

[Topcat]

It is better to get rid of a player a year too early than a year too late. - AJ Smith

I have every bit the sentiment for the player as anyone here. But what changes the math - for me - is that stretch during this season when we played that game of whether or not our WR1 could go, week-after-week. And I swore I would never allow myself to be place in that situation ever again. I believe it is time to be aggressive. Why?

Raiders have 3 Super Bowls. Broncos have 3. Now, the Chiefs have 3. I'll let you color in the rest.

Bill Belicheat also agrees with this statement...that's one way the Cheatriots get so many comp picks...

[Topcat]

OT Chiefs - Did you notice the two TD passes that Mahomes threw were simple routes that were designed to look like the WRs were crashing down to run block the defensive end. The route stopped reserved course into a flat route, and Mahomes hit on both of these: first on the right, then on the left. God damn.

Yep...Lombo NEVER dialed up anything resembling those routes...hope Moore gives us more of dat...

[Boltjolt]

They lost because KC scored 38. Eagles rushed 4 for most of the game. That worked great for them in the regular season.
Didn't work at all in the SB. I don't they counted on the KC O line being that effective.

In today's NFL offense wins SBs. The day of defense wins championships is over. The passing game has evolved into something
that is unstoppable once you have the right QB.

More like the league/ refs have evolved.

[Boltjolt]

All I know is this - the Eagles took a 7 zip lead and the Chiefs answered pretty quickly. The Chiefs didn't have one third down.
How many drives did the Chargers have this year where it seemed they needed to convert multiple third downs to score

The Chargers need to improve the offense while also trying get about $40m of cap. So from a cap perspective - Allen is the easiest to work with. JJ Watt was released two years ago by the Texans and he was a better player for Houston than Allen for the Chargers. It happens - older higher priced players get released.

JJ Watts contract expired, he wasn't released.
And from 27 years old only had 3 seasons where he played 16 games. He did it twice in his 30's. Last at age 33.

I am of the opinion that football age has more to do with skills, speed declining than injuries.
You can get injured at any age and hamstrings spare nobody and take a longer time to heal for everyone.

[beachcomber]

are you guys even reading what you wrote before you hit the post button.... ??

In part Everett's numbers were good because Allen/MW missed a lot of games. He's OK, but not in the same category as a Gates.

Yes the Chargers might take a step back without Allen. Or they might also get younger and faster at WR and improve the position. And though Keenan Allen is the number 1 WR on the Chargers - he is not a #1 WR in the NFL anymore. I have watched enough of the playoffs to know that. So he is better than Michael Bandy and Jason Moore - thats not going to cut it.

and got it.... work order for team Tommy John this offseason >> get us the best receiver in the NFL (w/no cap and the 21st pick) and a Gates equivalent TE.... fair enough and righty O mate,

[ghost]

OT Chiefs - Did you notice the two TD passes that Mahomes threw were simple routes that were designed to look like the WRs were crashing down to run block the defensive end. The route stopped reserved course into a flat route, and Mahomes hit on both of these: first on the right, then on the left. God damn.

This is what we all saw. Chiefs saw the Eagles' defense - by burning a down - and the Eagles used safeties dropping out in their coverage scheme. And they did it twice. Masterful job by Andy Reid and his staff, this story should be in the Hall of Fame as Bill Belichick's gameplan against the Bills is.

[beachcomber]

They need a guy like AJ Brown who is physical with the ball after the call.

were you pounding the table for AJ Brown instead of Tillery that year ??

who are you pounding the table for this year ?? who in the world do you possibly think the Chargers can bring in that can even hold a candle to Keenan ??

[Bolt4Knob]

JJ Watts contract expired, he wasn't released.
And from 27 years old only had 3 seasons where he played 16 games. He did it twice in his 30's. Last at age 33.

I am of the opinion that football age has more to do with skills, speed declining than injuries.
You can get injured at any age and hamstrings spare nobody and take a longer time to heal for everyone.

Or you can go to Google for 5 seconds and find out that yes, in fact, the texans released JJ Watt
Granted the team could have traded him but they honored his request to be released.
Either way - he wasn't going back to Houston
And you cannot compare the careers of Allen and Watt - one is a first ballot HOFer; the other has been a very good NFL player

[Bolt4Knob]

were you pounding the table for AJ Brown instead of Tillery that year ??

who are you pounding the table for this year ?? who in the world do you possibly think the Chargers can bring in that can even hold a candle to Keenan ??

The WRs I like so far are Flowers, Hyatt and Reed

If you don't understand why I am releasing Keenan Allen - you are not paying attention - its pretty clear