Ekeler: Negotiated Incentives for 2023 Contract Year

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  • DerwinBosa
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    #1609
    Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
    Can anyone else see a scenario where Bijan is there @21...and we pass on him?
    Absolutely. I can see the Spanos family and Telesco saying something like, "We don't need a great running back. We have Justin Herbert, so we throw the ball."

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    • Boltjolt
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      #1610
      Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

      My problem with that is these are Tom Telesco's second-round picks:

      Manti Te'o (2013), Jeremiah Attaochu (2014), Denzel Perryman (2015), Hunter Henry (2016), Forrest Lamp (2017), Uchenna Nwosu (2018), Nasir Adderley (2019), 2020 second-rounder was traded to move up for Kenneth Murray, Asante Samuel (2021), 2022 second-rounder was traded for Khalil Mack.

      Perryman got a second deal, but it was for two years. Henry should have been brought back. The rest didn't make it to a second contract--of course we'll see with Samuel.

      That's not an impressive list.
      Perryman IS a good player. He has just hurt too often here and why he didn't get a longer 2nd contract or a 3rd.
      He had his best season at LV then injured the next season.
      Agree about Henry.
      Last edited by Boltjolt; 04-22-2023, 08:53 PM.

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      • blueman
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        #1611
        Originally posted by QSmokey View Post
        Can anyone else see a scenario where Bijan is there @21...and we pass on him?
        Sure! That’s Chargers Nightmare Scenario #213. Always room for one more..

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        • sonorajim
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          #1612
          Originally posted by Caslon View Post
          Staley is a defense minded guy. I say he best improve on that.
          Defense needs to be KC level, dead average.We can get that with returning players. We went from #30 to #22 with several key players injured another retiring, one sucking so bad we cut him in season.
          Stomp 'em flat with Moore / Herbert dominant offense. Finish off the struggling wannbes with a well rested, attacking defense.

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          • Budsman
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            #1613
            I saw a few good picks in there so what I’m hearing is….

            Ill Be Back Jim Carrey GIF

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            • ChargersPowderBlue
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              #1614
              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
              Perryman US a good player. He has just hurt too often here and why he didn't get a longer 2nd contract or a 3rd.
              He had his best season at LV then injured the next season.
              Agree about Henry.
              Perryman was the last Charger linebacker that could actually do good against the run. Which this team is sadly lacking.

              Henry was overrated IMO. I like Everett and Parham just fine.

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              • richpjr
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                #1615
                Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

                Absolutely. I can see the Spanos family and Telesco saying something like, "We don't need a great running back. We have Justin Herbert, so we throw the ball."
                And if he is still there at 21, 20 other teams are thinking the same thing.

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                • gzubeck
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                  #1616
                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                  And if he is still there at 21, 20 other teams are thinking the same thing.
                  Or...half of them have bigger problems to solve.
                  Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

                  "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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                  • DerwinBosa
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                    #1617
                    Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                    And if he is still there at 21, 20 other teams are thinking the same thing.
                    Really? So if the Arizona Cardinals draft Will Anderson with the third pick overall that's what they'll be thinking? Same with the Seahawks, with Geno Smith, if they take Jalen Carter fifth overall?

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                    • richpjr
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                      #1618
                      Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                      Or...half of them have bigger problems to solve.
                      I'm not convinced that RB is our biggest need, especially one to solve with the 21st pick in the draft, so that sentiment can be argued to apply to us. You can make a case for several other positions as bigger problems with us.

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                      • richpjr
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                        #1619
                        Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post

                        Really? So if the Arizona Cardinals draft Will Anderson with the third pick overall that's what they'll be thinking? Same with the Seahawks, with Geno Smith, if they take Jalen Carter fifth overall?
                        The irony of the 2 teams you listed are their QBs could benefit from a strong RB like Robinson more than Herbert. But yes, my point is that if 20 other teams pass on him than they are thinking they don't need a great RB. Some have Robinson as the best player and most have him in their 5 top 5 players, but we know the position is devalued in today's league.

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                        • Boltnut
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                          #1620
                          Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                          And if he is still there at 21, 20 other teams are thinking the same thing.
                          Exactly.

                          The other thing to consider is... other players @other positions.
                          News flash TPB: There are other good players in the 1st round!!!
                          The RB position has been devalued. The premium positions have always been QB, pass-rusher, and OT.
                          Now that the NFL has slanted more and more toward the pass... you must include WR and CB into that equation, too.

                          There is a reason Ekeler has not been moved already... it has to do with value.
                          Maybe a 3rd round deal can be made for Ekeler on draft day. If that's the case... there is your value.
                          Protect the QB
                          Run the ball
                          Play great defense

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