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  • Boltgang74
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    Still Jameis IS a backup too.Just means Aints have a better eye for backups I guess?

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    • Lefty2SLO
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      Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
      Still Jameis IS a backup too.Just means Aints have a better eye for backups I guess?
      Or it's more of a priority for them.

      You could make the case that their #3 QB (Haener) is better than anyone on our team not named Herbert . . . . . . . . . . . . . Winston is light years ahead of Stick - he's an ex starter in the league with vastly more experience.

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      • jox g
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        Check out the 2022 NFL Opposition & Defensive Statistics including AFC and NFC results and standings on Pro-football-reference.com


        After reading the above link, I realized that the Aints had the #2 PASS DEFENSE in 2022!!! Dennis Allen. That's what Stick and #2 Oline faced

        Looking further, we play 10 out of 17 opponents who rank in the 2nd half (bottom) vs the PASS based on the 2022 stats of course.

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        • sonorajim
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          Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
          Still Jameis IS a backup too.Just means Aints have a better eye for backups I guess?
          At QB? No question Jameis is more talented and experienced. Costs more too.
          Oddly enough, each, Jameis and Stick had one TD apiece.

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          • Lefty2SLO
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            Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

            At QB? No question Jameis is more talented and experienced. Costs more too.
            Oddly enough, each, Jameis and Stick had one TD apiece.
            I believe there was a SLIGHT difference in number of plays each received . . . . . . . . . . . . and of course turnovers

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            • Velo
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              Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
              Still Jameis IS a backup too.Just means Aints have a better eye for backups I guess?
              Jameis Winston:

              Is a former No. 1 overall pick (2015)
              Is a former Pro Bowler
              Has started 80 NFL games
              Has thrown for 5k yds in a season and 4k yds twice
              Has thrown 138 TD passes in real NFL games
              Was NO's starter until injuries did him in
              Is still just 29

              There's no comparison between Winston and Stick, and I would like to see him as Herbert's backup over Stick.

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              • CanadianBoltFan
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                Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                At QB? No question Jameis is more talented and experienced. Costs more too.
                Oddly enough, each, Jameis and Stick had one TD apiece.
                There are a bunch of inexpensive rookies playing much better than Stick who has been in the league 5 years

                5th rounder O'Connell with Raiders
                6th rounder McKee with Eagles
                5th rounder Thompson-Robinson with Browns
                5th rounder Tune with Cardinals

                And from the Canadian Football League, FA Nathan Rourke is killing it in Jacksonville. No way he makes it on to the practice squad if the Jags don't keep 3 QBs.

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                • dmac_bolt
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                  Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                  At QB? No question Jameis is more talented and experienced. Costs more too.
                  Oddly enough, each, Jameis and Stick had one TD apiece.
                  Are you talking about a different game? Neither of them had "one TD" yesterday
                  “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                  • sonorajim
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                    Originally posted by jox g View Post
                    https://www.pro-football-reference.c...s/2022/opp.htm

                    After reading the above link, I realized that the Aints had the #2 PASS DEFENSE in 2022!!! Dennis Allen. That's what Stick and #2 Oline faced

                    Looking further, we play 10 out of 17 opponents who rank in the 2nd half (bottom) vs the PASS based on the 2022 stats of course.
                    We were #7 but we weren't playing starters.I don't think NO was either.
                    3 of our '23 opponent games are vs top 10 pass D's. I looked that up when peep's were talking tough sched.
                    Things change and situations will be different, but IMO our opponents should be worried about playing the Chargers.

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                    • Lefty2SLO
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                      Originally posted by Velo View Post

                      Jameis Winston:

                      Is a former No. 1 overall pick (2015)
                      Is a former Pro Bowler
                      Has started 80 NFL games
                      Has thrown for 5k yds in a season and 4k yds twice
                      Has thrown 138 TD passes in real NFL games
                      Was NO's starter until injuries did him in
                      Is still just 29

                      There's no comparison between Winston and Stick, and I would like to see him as Herbert's backup over Stick.
                      Me too . . . . . . . . . . . . .

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                      • wu-dai clan
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                        Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                        1st rd draft pick, vet starter vs Stick? Sounds fair.
                        How'd you like our D?
                        I thought the D was fine. Maybe a little choppy.

                        There were outlier chunk plays allowed.

                        We had a possible game deciding INT go right through our DBs hands
                        We play modern Harball.

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                        • dmac_bolt
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                          Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                          We were #7 but we weren't playing starters.I don't think NO was either.
                          3 of our '23 opponent games are vs top 10 pass D's. I looked that up when peep's were talking tough sched.
                          Things change and situations will be different, but IMO our opponents should be worried about playing the Chargers.
                          their lofty pass defense rankings are gonna crater once they encounter Moore's Herbinator Machine.

                          Fun fact for those not sciency - Moore's Law predicts that Herbert's offensive output will double every 1.5 seasons. If Moore is here 3 years ... yeah, do the math, we're talking a 20,000 yard season based on the best modeling available.

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                          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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