Cowboys @ Chargers (-3) Pregame Discussion (Wk 6)

[charger1_sj]

He will want all day, but will he?
Ego may be in the way.

He'll never admit letting Moore go was a mistake. Big time ego.

[Velo]

[BoltFan4evr]

I hope some charger fans show up
instead of selling your tickets .
Wish we had some true fans in LA

[Velo]

Rashaan Evans 'ready' to jump in for the Cowboys

Evans was a 1st round (2018) bust for the Titans. The Cowboys just signed him off his couch after Vander Esch went to IR.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/news/rashaan-evans-ready-to-jump-in-for-the-cowboys

[Charge!]

Hmmm.. sounds about right. Tom Brady became a starter in 2001. The dynasty crumbled after he left.

here is the more interesting questioon:

If Brady had been drafted by the Chargers in 5th or 6th round, with our bad organization, would he have ever become our starter? If we did let him start would he have been just brutaloized by bad OL's and horrible defenses?.... woudh Chargers have made playoffs or won a SB????

[Velo]

Jerry Jones compares Kellen Moore to Brock Purdy.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/10/13/jerry-jones-compares-brock-purdy-outstanding-quarterback-kellen-moore-cowboys-49ers

[Riverwalk]

here is the more interesting questioon:

If Brady had been drafted by the Chargers in 5th or 6th round, with our bad organization, would he have ever become our starter? If we did let him start would he have been just brutaloized by bad OL's and horrible defenses?.... woudh Chargers have made playoffs or won a SB????

Would he have had as many SB rings, or any as a Charger? Impossible to say because there’s too many other variables but one thing I do know for certain is he would have had more success with the same teams Rivers quarterbacked because he was the best QB of his era.

[ghost]

The dynasty crumbled after the Kraft-Goodell debacle.... Its obvious there was something fishy....

What I heard was, Bill Belichick used to split his time with his defense and then with Brady. Bill was spending up to 40% of his time in game prep, delegating to his defensive coach, and then Bill would devote his remaining 60% prep time to going through each individual defensive look Brady would face in the upcoming games - man coverage here, zone look here. Each tendency. Brady LOVED it, and the results were immediate. That was the Patriot Way. That level of preparation. That was when Dean Pees was the DC. Dean moved on to Baltimore. After that, Bill had to become more involved in the defense side of the ball, but Bill still had Dante Scarnecchia as OC and life was still easy. Brady learned to get by with less hands-on time from the HC.

Then Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniel took over the offense and Bill got to go back to the defense. When Dante left, and Brady left, McDaniel left a year after that...entropy.

Dean Pees - Defensive Coordinator

2009 New England Patriots	Defensive Coordinator	10-6-0	0-1
2008 New England Patriots	Defensive Coordinator	11-5-0	0-0
2007 New England Patriots	Defensive Coordinator	16-0-0	2-1
2006 New England Patriots	Defensive Coordinator	12-4-0	2-1
2005 New England Patriots	Linebackers Coach	10-6-0	1-1
2004 New England Patriots	Linebackers Coach	14-2-0	3-0

Dante Scarnecchia - Offensive Line Coach

2020 New England Patriots	Offensive Line Coach	7-9-0	0-0
2019 New England Patriots	Offensive Line Coach	12-4-0	0-1
2018 New England Patriots	Offensive Line Coach	11-5-0	3-0
2017 New England Patriots	Offensive Line Coach	13-3-0	2-1
2016 New England Patriots	Offensive Line Coach	14-2-0	3-0
2013 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	12-4-0	1-1
2012 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	12-4-0	1-1
2011 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	13-3-0	2-1
2010 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	14-2-0	0-1
2009 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	10-6-0	0-1
2008 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	11-5-0	0-0
2007 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	16-0-0	2-1
2006 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	12-4-0	2-1
2005 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	10-6-0	1-1
2004 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	14-2-0	3-0
2003 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	14-2-0	3-0
2002 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	9-7-0	0-0
2001 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	11-5-0	3-0
2000 New England Patriots	Assistant Head Coach / Offensive Line Coach	5-11-0	0-0
1999 New England Patriots	Offensive Line Coach	8-8-0	0-0
1998 New England Patriots	Special Teams Coach	9-7-0	0-1
1997 New England Patriots	Special Teams Coach	10-6-0	1-1
1996 New England Patriots	Linebackers Coach / Defensive Assistant Coach	11-5-0	2-1
1995 New England Patriots	Linebackers Coach / Defensive Assistant Coach	6-10-0	0-0
1994 New England Patriots	Special Assistant Coach	10-6-0	0-1
1993 New England Patriots	Special Assistant Coach	5-11-0	0-0
1992 New England Patriots	Tight Ends Coach / Special Teams Coach	2-14-0	0-0
1991 New England Patriots	Tight Ends Coach / Special Teams Coach	6-10-0	0-0

[ghost]

If you ever get a chance to hear Tom Brady talk about his head coach, listen to how Tom speaks about the time they used to spend together in offensive game prep. Bill is also a walking encyclopedia on offense and well as defense, despite being dour savant.

[Charge!]

Would he have had as many SB rings, or any as a Charger? Impossible to say because there’s too many other variables but one thing I do know for certain is he would have had more success with the same teams Rivers quarterbacked because he was the best QB of his era.

agree..... but Bellycheat has out coached the Chargers every single time.....only losing once ever to Chargers when LT ran for around 180 on his team....
Bellycheat is also far better at choosing OL, DL, LBers, DB's, etc than TT is......

[sonorajim]

What I heard was, Bill Belichick used to split his time with his defense and then with Brady. Bill was spending up to 40% of his time in game prep, delegating to his defensive coach, and then Bill would devote his remaining 60% prep time to going through each individual defensive look Brady would face in the upcoming games - man coverage here, zone look here. Each tendency. Brady LOVED it, and the results were immediate. That was the Patriot Way. That level of preparation. That was when Dean Pees was the DC. Dean moved on to Baltimore. After that, Bill had to become more involved in the defense side of the ball, but Bill still had Dante Scarnecchia as OC and life was still easy. Brady learned to get by with less hands-on time from the HC.

Then Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniel took over the offense and Bill got to go back to the defense. When Dante left, and Brady left, McDaniel left a year after that...entropy.

I always felt Dante's OL work made him BB's most important asst.
No question that BB's a great detail HC but it takes quality help that can be trusted to reach the top.

[Riverwalk]

Bellycheat is also far better at choosing OL, DL, LBers, DB's, etc than TT is......

That’s not a high bar.