Agree with this Denver sportswriter...

[Formula 21]

Bosa starts from day 1. Chill.

[Boltjolt]

Bosa starts from day 1. Chill.

We'll see. Merriman didn't and didnt miss any time.

[6025]

We'll see. Merriman didn't and didnt miss any time.

Merriman held out until week 3 of the preseason against Minnesota. Because he missed so much time they put him on special teams that game and he hurt his knee. The same one that gave him problems later on.

[6025]

Bosa starts from day 1. Chill.

How effective will he be? I don't want a half assed player out there. It's completely unnecessary.

[Steve]

No, it really hurts us because we need better players and Lissemore ain't one. Mebane isn't going to play outside. Could but most likely won't.

Lissemore is an effective run stuffer. He adds no pass rush, but at least can maintain his assigment, which is more than Reyes and Liuget can say most of the time. The problem on our DL is the DE, not the NT. Carrethers has been up and down as well, so it is time for him to step up.

Mebane is going to play on the nose, and maybe a little bit as a 43 NT, in our rush line, on run downs. I don't think anyone is suggesting he will play outside. But adding a leverage NT means that other players can be moved around, which gives us some flexibility.

I don't know if Bosa will start or not. It would be better if he didn't.

Do we care if the most dynamic player on our DL pisses away useful snaps on quick throws and runs? He will play mostly in the pass rush line, and that is where he can have an impact. DL "starters" are limited players who lack the overall skills to be impact players. Let Lissemore and Carrethers have those early down snaps in the base D. They can stuff the run, and play with leverage, so that when Bosa does come on, he can penetrate and stop the draws in the backfield and rush the QB. But the guys who play vs base personnel and shortyardage are not going to make as many impact plays, because offenses play it safe on those downs and don't put the ball at risk. It's later in the snap count that a player can make the impact plays, and that was why we drafted Bosa.

My concern with Bosa is more about the fact that if Condon is really trying to make it an issue about the bonus money playouts and the offset language, then he is setting Bosa up for missing a lot of time. I just can't see the Chargers budging on the issue, and they shouldn't. We have had all our players deal with issues like this, so why should the Chargers make accomidations for him? Phillip Rivers, Gates and LT all took the offset language and defered bonuses, and did it on several contracts. If Bosa thinks a rookie gets to set policy, then he needs to see that there is a hall of famer, and 2 likely hall of fame guys who did it and no one ever said a thing.

[Wheels]

Bosa has to get signed first before he does anything. Still amazes me that we cant get these guys signed with a rookie scale. These agents are dirtbags for wanting to create more ways to get more money and i stand by my thinking that with a rookie scale, why do these players NEED an agent? Sign the rookie deal and keep ALL that money for yourself. Hire an agent when you get close to FA'cy.

I feel that Condon is doing this holdout thing to make himself relevant, because of the rookie pay scale that was imposed. Gotta justify the paycheck.

[QSmokey]

It's not enough that we have almost an entire thread devoted to the "Bosa Blunder". Now we have to hijack the first thread I've started all year to the subject.

[KNSD]

The question isn't that the team expects Rivers to do it all, they don't. They've spent significant resources on OL. The question is why they've whiffed so badly (injuries, bad draft picks).

King Dunlap - Injured, but signed large FA contract. I doubt he plays 3 games this year.
Orlando Franklin - Bust (so far), but signed large FA contract
Chris Watt - Bust (replace by FA OL Slaussen, and 3rd round pick Turk)
DJ Fluker - Minor Bust (not a 1st round talent, but has heart of a lion)
Barksdale - Hey, at least he wasn't injured too much. FA signed decent contract

Edit: And you can also include Melvin Gordon as being a huge bust as well. Wasted 1st round draft pick (so far).

Then let's look at the WR corp. They brought in Stevie Johnson who should be great, but last year was like... Stevie Who? Benjamin this year... on a theoretical sheet of paper the team HAS brought in guys to fill holes. Those guys simply haven't performed.

[Lightningwill_420]

The question isn't that the team expects Rivers to do it all, they don't. They've spent significant resources on OL. The question is why they've whiffed so badly (injuries, bad draft picks).

King Dunlap - Injured, but signed large FA contract. I doubt he plays 3 games this year.
Orlando Franklin - Bust (so far), but signed large FA contract
Chris Watt - Bust (replace by FA OL Slaussen, and 3rd round pick Turk)
DJ Fluker - Minor Bust (not a 1st round talent, but has heart of a lion)
Barksdale - Hey, at least he wasn't injured too much. FA signed decent contract

Edit: And you can also include Melvin Gordon as being a huge bust as well. Wasted 1st round draft pick (so far).

Then let's look at the WR corp. They brought in Stevie Johnson who should be great, but last year was like... Stevie Who? Benjamin this year... on a theoretical sheet of paper the team HAS brought in guys to fill holes. Those guys simply haven't performed.

Steve is right. It hasn't been for lack of trying. We just have sucked. We're that student who busts his ass off trying to learn the ABCs but, by the 10th grade, still hasn't figured out what letter elemenoh is.

[QSmokey]

Steve is right. It hasn't been for lack of trying. We just have sucked. We're that student who busts his ass off trying to learn the ABCs but, by the 10th grade, still hasn't figured out what letter elemenoh is.

Steve???

[Lightningwill_420]

Steve???

Steve is right. It's how I'm starting most of my messages now.
Sorry. I should have said KNSD, who showed some Steve-like abilities.