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  • sonorajim
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    #1429
    Originally posted by jamrock View Post

    Scored 10 in first half and 6 in second half. Had to settle for a fg after first and goal at the 4.

    two TDs in last 2 weeks.

    ecstatic to win! But our offense is a struggle bus
    Agree but winning is all I care about. We know the primary struggles.
    OL is a revolving door, Herbert broken L/hand, star RB several weeks on IR and most PBs dislike Gro.
    I like the fact that Harbaugh's Chargers play Team ball. I'm looking forward to a strong run game while Herbert's hand is getting better and less of a distraction. Killer D and STs can keep us afloat while O gets their legs under them and that L/hand.

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    • Riverwalk
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      #1430
      Originally posted by richpjr View Post

      KCs starting line yesterday:

      Pole was undrafted.
      Suamataia 2nd round
      Humphry 2nd round
      Caliendo undrafted
      Moore 5th round
      Chukwuebuka took most of the snaps at RT and he is an UDFA. Moore was injured in the first quarter.

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      • Factotum
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        #1431
        Originally posted by jamrock View Post

        Scored 10 in first half and 6 in second half. Had to settle for a fg after first and goal at the 4.

        two TDs in last 2 weeks.

        ecstatic to win! But our offense is a struggle bus
        Did something major happen to, say our QB for instance, in the last 2 weeks? Nah! Carry on

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        • Antigua Bolt Backer
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          #1432
          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

          Scored 10 in first half and 6 in second half. Had to settle for a fg after first and goal at the 4.

          two TDs in last 2 weeks.

          ecstatic to win! But our offense is a struggle bus
          We didn't score much, but we did not have any three-and-outs in the second half, and only one in the first half (the interception). That kept the ball out of Mahomes' hands, and we won possession time 32:42 to 25:18. Sure, our redzone offense still stinks, and I never want to see a fade pass to an OT again. I thought that Roman did a better job adapting to reality in the second half, other than that insane lateral back from KA.

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          • 21&500
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            #1433
            We're playing possum.
            watch out for a breakout, 30 burger in Dallas.
            "The best defense is more offense."
            --John Lawrence

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            • jamrock
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              #1434
              Originally posted by Factotum View Post

              Did something major happen to, say our QB for instance, in the last 2 weeks? Nah! Carry on
              It's not a last 2 weeks problem

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              • Topcat
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                #1435
                Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
                We're playing possum.
                watch out for a breakout, 30 burger in Dallas.
                Not so sure about that...our new style seems to be run the rock repeatedly, a few passes here and there, and dominate the TOP...more lower scoring games...and W's...

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                • sonorajim
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                  #1436
                  Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                  Not so sure about that...our new style seems to be run the rock repeatedly, a few passes here and there, and dominate the TOP...more lower scoring games...and W's...
                  D and STs can score or set us up in the Red Zone. Not saying it will happen but it could.

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                  • Factotum
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                    #1437
                    Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                    It's not a last 2 weeks problem
                    No it is not but I was specifically referring to your post which stated 2 TDs in the past 2 weeks, did you not write that? I generally like and enjoy your takes, the zingers and the banter even from my NN days over at CMB but sometimes you dance around what you had actually said!

                    This 2026 Chargers are not a high powered offense, I grant you that. I don't see them out gunning and out dueling teams, the JAX game was a very painful reminder of our inefficiencies atop the injuries. I am not blind and I can see all those inadequacies with the cards which we are currently holding. Everyone knows that the weakest link in the team is our OL which is a very crucial and most important component of the offense along with the QB. We are very fortunate to have a total stud QB who has become even more gritty through the Jim Harbaugh's couple of years. Let's just agree on one basic fact which is this weak OL does not allow and afford Herbert enough time to go through all his 1-2-3 reads and at best just gives him enough time to go 1 & 2 if we are lucky! People complain that Roman does not call for enough screens and short slant/underneath passes. I don't know what games they have been watching but with Alt we were getting more of those types of calls and completions, can we also at least agree on this second premise?

                    So here we are right now, now a perfect team by any means with an anemic offense in a shoot out situation. However, these 2026 Chargers are now a gritty and PITA kind of team. The D will give the opposing Os very confusing looks so the bombing away QBs may find themselves victims of getting picked off. These picks are not flukes! They have been repeating themselves repeatedly for the past 3 weeks since that JAX debacle. One concern still remains against Os which benefit from 2 very good RBs which have the ability to gash through the Chargers D, gassing the defenders. We will definitely have our handful with a couple of AFC teams and a couple of NFC teams if we ever get that far but for now, I am looking forward to meeting Dallas and Dan to see if my take so far in here with these Week 15 Chargers gets validated.

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                    • NoMoreChillies
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                      #1438
                      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                      Not so sure about that...our new style seems to be run the rock repeatedly, a few passes here and there, and dominate the TOP...more lower scoring games...and W's...
                      a recipe that has proven the test of time even in cold weather

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                      • jamrock
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                        #1439
                        Originally posted by Factotum View Post

                        No it is not but I was specifically referring to your post which stated 2 TDs in the past 2 weeks, did you not write that? I generally like and enjoy your takes, the zingers and the banter even from my NN days over at CMB but sometimes you dance around what you had actually said!

                        This 2026 Chargers are not a high powered offense, I grant you that. I don't see them out gunning and out dueling teams, the JAX game was a very painful reminder of our inefficiencies atop the injuries. I am not blind and I can see all those inadequacies with the cards which we are currently holding. Everyone knows that the weakest link in the team is our OL which is a very crucial and most important component of the offense along with the QB. We are very fortunate to have a total stud QB who has become even more gritty through the Jim Harbaugh's couple of years. Let's just agree on one basic fact which is this weak OL does not allow and afford Herbert enough time to go through all his 1-2-3 reads and at best just gives him enough time to go 1 & 2 if we are lucky! People complain that Roman does not call for enough screens and short slant/underneath passes. I don't know what games they have been watching but with Alt we were getting more of those types of calls and completions, can we also at least agree on this second premise?

                        So here we are right now, now a perfect team by any means with an anemic offense in a shoot out situation. However, these 2026 Chargers are now a gritty and PITA kind of team. The D will give the opposing Os very confusing looks so the bombing away QBs may find themselves victims of getting picked off. These picks are not flukes! They have been repeating themselves repeatedly for the past 3 weeks since that JAX debacle. One concern still remains against Os which benefit from 2 very good RBs which have the ability to gash through the Chargers D, gassing the defenders. We will definitely have our handful with a couple of AFC teams and a couple of NFC teams if we ever get that far but for now, I am looking forward to meeting Dallas and Dan to see if my take so far in here with these Week 15 Chargers gets validated.
                        What was your CMB handle?

                        you seemed to imply that the lack of production was tied to Herbert's broken hand which is why I said it hasn't been a 2 week problem. I remember last season there were entire quarters and more of games where we couldn't manage a first down. That was with Alt and Slater.

                        Defense has been working wonders of late. Hope they can keep it up. They have to carry us. Been saying that for a while. Agree that if we find ourselves in a duel we're likely cooked as when the D couldn't stem the tide we've had no hope

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #1440
                          Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

                          No the Chiefs OL PFF grades are not better.

                          You posted Esa Pole played OG and he’s the LT.

                          I’m done arguing OL’s with someone that doesn’t know what positions they play.
                          He is a OG but played OT,. Same as Salyer. I'm just putting out their grades and their grades were better than ours. Our highest graded OL was a 62. They had a 90. None of theirs was as low as Becton.

                          You made statements without researching and went by their draft status instead, and you were wrong about that as they had 2 UDFA, not three.
                          I posted one of our first rounders was a 37.1,...and the other a 59.
                          You want argue, cool, ....do some research first!

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