2019 Draft Whiffs - WTH Telesco???

[blueman]

I was very happy with our first two picks when they were made, especially Tillery. Today, not so much although like Lamb I’ll wait a bit before tossing out Bust.

[OhioBolt]

TT not so hot in rounds 1-3 especially after round 1 he does seem to get picks in later rounds and UDFA

2019 -If Adderly doesn't come around in 2020 this is a bad draft
1 Tillery - Early reports swing and a miss
4 Tranquill- Early reports best pick of the draft and core contributor

2018
1 Derwin James- Home Run
2 Uchenna Nwosu - Okay hasn't been a difference maker
7 Justin Jackson -If can stay heathy he's been very productive

2017
1. Mike Williams- Need to be more consistent he is the #7 pick in the draft
2. Lamp- If he can't stay healthy then he is a bust
5. Desmond King- Good Player

2016
1 Bosa- Home Run
2 Hunter Henry- Just needs to stay Healthy
3. Max Turek -Swing and a miss

2015
1.Melvin Gordon-Good player not an over 10 mill a year player
2. Perryman -Average at best unable to stay healthy
3. Craig Mager- Swing and Miss

2014 -Total waste of picks through out
1. Jason Verrett-injuries out weigh talent
2 Jeremiah Attouchu -total waste
3. Chris Watt- total waste

2013
1. DJ Fluker- no explaination required
2. Mante Teo- explanation required why?
3. Keenan Allen - Home run

[PR#1]

Keenan Allen was a Home Run.

The other Home Run's, any GM could make.

Bosa was the #3 pick overall. There we were picking 3rd and really needed a pass rush. The first 2 picks were QBs which we were not on the market for at the time.

James was the #17 pick overall. Where we picked we desperately needed a play making safety.

Telesco gets far too much credit for both of those picks and in a sense, they fell to him.

Chris Watt and Turek are real head scratchers.

[boldarblood]

Tillery being a bust. Shocker. Its not like people here werent banging the table to not pick him.

Its absolutely ridiculous and short sighted to call him a bust so early. DT is a position that takes a year sometimes two to develop, its a high learning curve.

[Kingcrimson]

Its absolutely ridiculous and short sighted to call him a bust so early. DT is a position that takes a year sometimes two to develop, its a high learning curve.

This. No rookie DTs (even ones drafted before JT) have eye popping numbers this year. Not to mention we’re sparingly playing him.

[Boltgang74]

Tommyjohn should have drafted o line which most fans knew and understood we needed.PON or not if ya need o line ya grab o line.K.I.S.S.Im just done with this f.o. They all seem waaay out of their depth.

[Topcat]

TT not so hot in rounds 1-3 especially after round 1 he does seem to get picks in later rounds and UDFA

2019 -If Adderly doesn't come around in 2020 this is a bad draft
1 Tillery - Early reports swing and a miss
4 Tranquill- Early reports best pick of the draft and core contributor

2018
1 Derwin James- Home Run
2 Uchenna Nwosu - Okay hasn't been a difference maker
7 Justin Jackson -If can stay heathy he's been very productive

2017
1. Mike Williams- Need to be more consistent he is the #7 pick in the draft
2. Lamp- If he can't stay healthy then he is a bust
5. Desmond King- Good Player

2016
1 Bosa- Home Run
2 Hunter Henry- Just needs to stay Healthy
3. Max Turek -Swing and a miss

2015
1.Melvin Gordon-Good player not an over 10 mill a year player
2. Perryman -Average at best unable to stay healthy
3. Craig Mager- Swing and Miss

2014 -Total waste of picks through out
1. Jason Verrett-injuries out weigh talent
2 Jeremiah Attouchu -total waste
3. Chris Watt- total waste

2013
1. DJ Fluker- no explaination required
2. Mante Teo- explanation required why?
3. Keenan Allen - Home run

Pitiful job of talent evaluation on so many of those picks...U didn't mention Feeney, who is hovering between a C- and a D+...I'll bet Matt Millen could have picked better...

[21&500]

Way too early to call Tillery or Adderley a bust

I don’t see how drafting players close to their projected slots can be criticized when they don’t pan out in their rookie year, especially considering the many other factors that go into player development.

lets take Lamp for example, I found myself calling him a busy after his recent injury. That may or may not be true, but at the time he was drafted, he was a legitimate 1st / 2nd round prospect that Telesco got well into the second. So I fail to see how this is a failure on Telesco’s part. sometimes player have injury concerns so ya, you can criticize the risk in taking that player but the GM doesn’t have control of how that player is managed or how hard they end up working. Again, we try to select guys that show work ethic and many other traits, but drafting essentially is a crap shoot.
so unless a GM is making outlandish picks every other round and having those turn out badly as expected, its hard to judge a GM by how players’ careers unfold.

I judge a GM by judging the prospects based on where they’re projected to go at the time, the overall fit with what our coaches are trying to do and roster needs. Every prospect comes with inherent risk, to be critical when that risk burns isn’t fair unless the GM is being completely careless with over drafting guys.

[Boltjolt]

Not to belabor the point, but the Chargers had Drew Lock in for a visit in April but chose to draft Tillery instead. Just like they chose to draft One Touchdown Williams instead of Mahomes or Deshaun Watson in 2017.

You keep saying that but your crazy if you think they needed to draft a QB 3years ago. And Lock.... Just don't care about him. Without the phantom PI call, he loses that game

[charger1993]

Its absolutely ridiculous and short sighted to call him a bust so early. DT is a position that takes a year sometimes two to develop, its a high learning curve.

Thats what people in the thread are saying not me.im just saying im not surprised. I wasnt high on tillery to begin with. He always looked average to me in college

[charger1993]

Way too early to call Tillery or Adderley a bust

I don’t see how drafting players close to their projected slots can be criticized when they don’t pan out in their rookie year, especially considering the many other factors that go into player development.

lets take Lamp for example, I found myself calling him a busy after his recent injury. That may or may not be true, but at the time he was drafted, he was a legitimate 1st / 2nd round prospect that Telesco got well into the second. So I fail to see how this is a failure on Telesco’s part. sometimes player have injury concerns so ya, you can criticize the risk in taking that player but the GM doesn’t have control of how that player is managed or how hard they end up working. Again, we try to select guys that show work ethic and many other traits, but drafting essentially is a crap shoot.
so unless a GM is making outlandish picks every other round and having those turn out badly as expected, its hard to judge a GM by how players’ careers unfold.

I judge a GM by judging the prospects based on where they’re projected to go at the time, the overall fit with what our coaches are trying to do and roster needs. Every prospect comes with inherent risk, to be critical when that risk burns isn’t fair unless the GM is being completely careless with over drafting guys.

Difference is lamp was a great pick for the slot we took him, lamp was a projected first who fell in the draft. So we essentially got tremendous value for our pick. While lamp hasnt really produced cause of injuries, he still looks really good when he plays considering all the time he missed. With tillery we took him pretty much where he was projected. And he hasnt panned out.we go through this almost every year. Outside of derwin and bosa who have we drafted thats been playmakers? Its been a minute. But its the draft n shit happens. I just think we need better scouts. Were a whooping 5-8. Its mind blowing.

[charger1993]

I was very happy with our first two picks when they were made, especially Tillery. Today, not so much although like Lamb I’ll wait a bit before tossing out Bust.

I wasnt tbh, tillery made me nervous because he just looked average in college to me, i didnt see him as a game changer like people here thought at the time of the draft. Adderly made me nervous because small school, banged up, kinda felt like verret all over again "even tho verret went to tcu" 3rd round pipkins lol. Drue tranquil has made me eat crow, i always like his skill just didnt know if those knees would hold up.