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[ghost]

We used to drive down to Rosarito Beach, and drink ourselves blind and howl at the moon. Never made it to Cabo.

[Formula 21]

It's going to be interesting to watch how it works over the next few seasons. Aaron Donald is going to be 30 this year, when his skills start to decline that defense isn't going to the same. So the window for this current experiment in that strategy is going to be relatively quick.

Be good and win now. Suck and rebuild later. Don’t get trapped in the middle.

[wu-dai clan]

We used to drive down to Rosarito Beach, and drink ourselves blind and howl at the moon. Never made it to Cabo.

Yes. Yes.
See #3126.

[Heatmiser]

Wow. Rams sign Gurley to huge early extension and then cut him. Rams sign Goff to huge extension and trade him. Rams trade all their first round picks year after year to acquire expensive, proven, but older talent. The Rams GM needs to be evaulated?

TG

[ghost]

Yes. Yes.
See #3126.

It's really hard to spin this into a positive. It's disappointing and frankly, sounds like something the Houston Astros would do.

[ghost]

Wow. Rams sign Gurley to huge early extension and then cut him. Rams sign Goff to huge extension and trade him. Rams trade all their first round picks year after year to acquire expensive, proven, but older talent. The Rams GM needs to be evaulated?

TG

He's hitting on his late rounds picks, bro. It’s hard to agree that the Rams are mismanaging their team when Les Snead has had an over .500 record as the GM and made playoffs 3 of the last 4 years with one SB appearance, where their star-QB and excellent offense put up 3 points.

[Topcat]

We used to drive down to Rosarito Beach, and drink ourselves blind and howl at the moon. Never made it to Cabo.

Several of us made it to Cabo...when we were with that other forum...

[Topcat]

Wow. Rams sign Gurley to huge early extension and then cut him. Rams sign Goff to huge extension and trade him. Rams trade all their first round picks year after year to acquire expensive, proven, but older talent. The Rams GM needs to be evaulated?

TG

Crazy trades and other bold, but potentially blunderous moves like these smack of desperation...kind of reminds me of AJ in his last few years, desperate to strike gold, trading away draft choices for marginal players like Hester and Teo, and reaching for the likes of English and Fluker...not to mention the way he extended guys like Tucker and Lazy Gaither with overly generous deals without much of a body of work, or in Gaither's case, red flags...yep, when a GM is in the hot seat, it's desperation time...

[Guest]

Rams go seven consecutive draft classes without owning a first-round pick. Yet they made it to the SB and missed playoffs only 1 time in last 4 seasons. Clearly the trade works for their system since they save time and money in trying to draft a QB. Stafford is an improvement over Goff. Remainder of Goff's contract (and cap hit) is the Lions' responsibility now. Trying to find a trade partner in the first place is a win. They can now focus attention on finding mid round talents to coach up.

Dammit right when the Chargers were going to eclipse the Rams too.

Obviously, the Rams are in win now mode, but the approach they have taken does not sustain success. Roster turnover in the NFL is a very real thing. Players get injured, their contracts expire and they move on, they become ineffective due to age and other reasons, et cetera. A team does not remain in its current good form by repeatedly trading away its first round picks.

The issue is not how successful the Rams are now, but how successful they would have been had they not traded away the draft picks in question. Imagine all of the draft picks they would have had without the Goff, Ramsey and Stafford trades.

Per Spotrac, the Rams are more than $35M over the salary cap and they have significant free agents and no significant cut friendly contracts other than Stafford, who they could pick up $20M by cutting.

I see a team that is on its way to being worse than it was this year for years to come. The teams with first round picks should gain on the Rams in terms of talent over the next several years.

If they were only a player away (and I do not think they ever were), that player certainly is not a middle of the road starting QB like Stafford. And the vaunted defense will be exposed in 2021 as they will likely lose one or more key contributors and people will realize that the defense was never quite as good as billed as half of their schedule was played against bottom 11 offenses.

As for the Lions, they are rebuilding and Goff will help them by improving their draft pick for the next couple of years. The Lions will probably be picking in the top 10, the Rams in the top 20. The one year delay in the picks actually will help Detroit in the long run. The Lions will draft their QB and move on from Goff in 2023 when his contract carries no dead money.

[jamrock]

Several of us made it to Cabo...when we were with that other forum...

and several were there permanently. frankly, i'm a little disappointed they didn't give a heads up

[Guest]

He's hitting on his late rounds picks, bro. It’s hard to agree that the Rams are mismanaging their team when Les Snead has had an over .500 record as the GM and made playoffs 3 of the last 4 years with one SB appearance, where their star-QB and excellent offense put up 3 points.

Snead very arguably should be fired. The team is in bad salary cap shape, has a number of free agents, no first round picks, and just spent two first round picks and a third round pick for a marginal upgrade at the QB position.

The overrated defense (half of its schedule against bottom 11 offenses goes a long way toward not giving up points) will be exposed this year and the offense is not all that (bottom 10 in scoring). This looks like a team on the way down that has been managed very poorly--Gurley deal, trade up to get get Goff (multiple first and second round picks) and Goff contract, trading away tons (7) of first round picks, a team in salary cap hell, et cetera.

[Boltjolt]

Wow. Rams sign Gurley to huge early extension and then cut him. Rams sign Goff to huge extension and trade him. Rams trade all their first round picks year after year to acquire expensive, proven, but older talent. The Rams GM needs to be evaulated?

TG

They also signed Brandon Cooks to a huge contract ( 5-80) and traded him. Dead cap loses, draft pick loses, no superbowl win. Over the cap space now, few draft picks. Their window is about to slam shut!