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Originally posted by jamrock View Post
Poor highlight to make that point. The guy is well covered and the throw perfect
I didn’t mention target. Agree It was perfectly on target but NFL DBs recover on rainbows a lot better than college DBs - especially if the QB doesn’t have the cannon to keep them honest. that was my intended point. You can see differently, no worry here. I respect your views.
His senior year ALA WRs >>> opposing DBs and that made him appear better than he is. He’s not a bad QB but I still suspect he’s not going to be a champion or a HOF. Again Jmo, opinions are not fact so you can and maybe do see differently.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
Yes, that his lack of arm strength will take away a good portion of the football field for the Miami offense to attack.
He had a poor Oline last year (no worse than Herbert's in his rookie year), but good to decent offensive weapons.
Somehow, Tua managed to turn Jaylon Waddle into a possession receiver.
I went back and looked at old Joe Montana tape: i remember him throwing a real nice & accurate deep pass.
It didn't take me long to find a Montana bomb, 47 yards beyond the line of scrimmage to Jerry Rice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcGnHJDrHe8 (at the 11:17 mark - the NFL didn't allow me to convert it into a gif).
The great Jerry Rice only had a half step on the Ram cb. San Francisco didn't do it often, but defenses had to respect it.
I invite you to find tape of Tua at Alabama slinging the rock further than 35 yards.
And yes, I agree: having a sub standard arm doesn't incapacitate him as a qb.
Chad Pennington had an even weaker arm, and he was really good.
There is no doubt that Tua, when healthy, has underperformed in the eyes of his ex head coach and others associated with the organization.
BTW, Bill Walsh probably would have loved Tua's footwork in the pocket. He was a stickler for that: promoting Drew Brees above Michael Vick,
and trashing Ryan Leaf on each one's respective draft day for that quality.
His inconsistent ball placement and decision-making is a big, big part of it, and those are not necessarily things that can be fixed. Plenty of young QB can develop "arm" strength. You hit the weight room, improve mechanics, and then get better timing with your receivers, will all get the ball downfield more. But throwing into double coverage and not having a good sense of how to throw around/away from defenders is something some guys never develop.
Waddle I think was used a lot as a possession guy because he was the focus of the O last year. It is a lot easier to get the ball into a guy when he is running short routes than longer routes. Now that they have Hill, Cedrick Wilson and Gesicki, plus Gaskin, Mosert and Edmonds at RB, they can afford to use Waddle to attack deep more often. With what Maimi spent on Hill and Gesicki, they are certainly going to try and spread the ball around to other players more this year than last, although I do think Waddle still has an edge because of is chemistry with Waddle.
Miami is going into the season with Tua as their guy, so only time will tell on how it works out. THey still need a right side of the OL, but the skill positions seem pretty set.
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Tua struggles to throw to "NFL open" receivers. Part of that is habit. Even in the clip, the CB caught up to the WR but there was a good 2 yards separation when the ball was released. He is used to throwing to wide open guys.
Part of that is arm strength. He can't throw into tight windows or deep out routes because the ball is too slow and defenders can get there.
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Originally posted by equivocation View PostTua struggles to throw to "NFL open" receivers. Part of that is habit. Even in the clip, the CB caught up to the WR but there was a good 2 yards separation when the ball was released. He is used to throwing to wide open guys.
Part of that is arm strength. He can't throw into tight windows or deep out routes because the ball is too slow and defenders can get there.“Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”
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Originally posted by equivocation View PostTua struggles to throw to "NFL open" receivers. Part of that is habit. Even in the clip, the CB caught up to the WR but there was a good 2 yards separation when the ball was released. He is used to throwing to wide open guys.
Part of that is arm strength. He can't throw into tight windows or deep out routes because the ball is too slow and defenders can get there.
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