Rivers and Chargers Agree to Part Ways | Updated: Rivers A Colt

[Boltgang74]

Op-ed: The San Diego city council are the ones who screwed Rivers by refusing to accept the Spanos' proposal to develop the land surrounding the stadium in exchange for a new stadium which would have kept Rivers in San Diego where he and the Chargers belonged in the first place. The council thought it was too sweet a deal for the Spanos'. Now look at the situation. Renting a place from Kronke in a city that has even less interest in pro football. The city council ain't getting squat for that land and the Spanos' aren't sitting pretty either.

Spaznos clan are 100% as guilty as the city council.They worked hand in hand to make sure eventually the Bolts could get moved to L.A.to chase what truly matters to them.A Lombardi?Hahhahahahahaaa....no, money.

[victoriaboltfan]

Sad to see Phil go ,but i do think its time..
I sure hope we get another qb either in the draft or free agency .
The thought of Tyrod as our starting qb really doesnt get me excited for next season

[Gwynning_Spirit]

Well, I guess we're actually doing this now... so in the words of stormy daniels, "Ugh, here we go.”

But I'm not going to post a link to You Can’t Put Your Arms Around a Memory on the what I'm listening to thread.

[JOJAX85]

Sad to see Phil go ,but i do think its time..
I sure hope we get another qb either in the draft or free agency .
The thought of Tyrod as our starting qb really doesnt get me excited for next season

Tyrod's family & Lynn are the ONLY ones excited about that.

[ChargerTrader]

It was time to move on... Rivers was great for many years as our QB, but I am actually looking forward to a change, even if it takes them two seasons to execute the transition strategy.

[Guest]

Sorry, but you could not be more wrong....for multiple reasons....

For one, IF lawrence were truly that great, he would have beaten Burrow in the championship game, or he would have at least looked good as a passer in that game and the previous bowl game, but he did not look good as a passer in either game.....

Lawrence is a big physical RUNNING RPO QB with some passing skills...... he lacks touch and accuracy when actually forced to throw the ball....... Lawrence and Hebert are very close physically..... with rocket arms..... but both throw almost entirely bullet passes and rarely show touch accuracy......

Burrow is a way way better QB than Lawrence..... in almost every way except for power running...... leadership, decision making, and accuracy are what are important in an elite QB......Burrow had the greatest season any QB in history has ever had and he did it against the best defenses in college football........ and in biggest games..... he threw 7 TD passes in first half against a team that will have multiple first round defenders drafted...... if you have hear him interviewed, he is confident but very smart, he says he wins games during the week with study and preparation......he is a complete cant miss franchise QB......

If Lawrence was better then Burrow, he would have come out this year...... and since he will be coming out next year, he will likely go number one overall.......most likely Chargers will finish around .500 next year...... which will mean we will be picking in the late teens or early 20's........ if we dont draft a QB at 6 or higher this year, we likely ben going all in on OL and defense and running game...... which will put us in that 7-9 to 8-8 record area....... we would have to have there worst record in NFL to get Lawrence, and he will be in high demand because there are no other options like there are this year...

Burrow is the clear number one this year and Tua is also a franchise type QB in terms of accuracy and play making ability...... Hebert is comparable to
Allen of buffalo but Hebert is far more accurate....... all 3 of those QB's, are better than Jones who was a huge reach last year......

Chargers are lucky to be at number 6 so we are close enough to new able to possibly trade up top number one or 2 or 3 too get the QB we want.... next year we will be too far away.......

Chargers have picks and some players we can trade....... if Chargers are not willing to pay Bosa big money he could be part of the deal..... if they are then Ingram, and others could be part of the deal.........

Chargers currently do NOT have a franchise QB own the roster so we have zero choice but to draft one........ if this team were great at all positions except QB then throwing money at Brady might be the answer to get a SB championship........ but sadly this team is far off and rebuilding..... and the rebuild starts with finding the right QB....... then you build pieces that support that QB and his skills/style..... That is how you build a team........

I disagree with your post.

Lawrence is regarded by multiple analysts as the best QB prospect they have ever seen (he is the best I have seen in over 40 years of watching football, which includes Elway and Peyton Manning), not some some one year wonder that could only produce when his team was way better than any of its opponents. Without the huge advantage in prospects with a realistic chance to be drafted (15 for LSU besides Burrow versus 6 for Clemson in the top 300), Burrow was just an average QB as a red shirt junior for LSU in 2018.

In that season, Burrow completed just 57.6% of his passes. Even as a true freshman and true sophomore, Lawrence has always completed over 65% of his passes. So, contrary to your suggestion, Lawrence is actually the more consistently accurate QB despite being three years younger with three years less development than Burrow.

And if Lawrence could enter the draft this year (he is not eligible, which is the only reason why he did not enter the draft this year), he would be the #1 pick in this year's draft.

Lawrence does everything as well as or better, sometimes much better, than Burrow--everything. Lawrence has a much better arm than Burrow and is a much better runner than Burrow. In the areas of leadership, decision making and accuracy, he is at least as good as Burrow, though I believe he is actually better than Burrow in those areas too.

Also, NFL level competition is much more likely to have an adverse impact against the weaker armed, less athletic Burrow than it is against the much more athletically gifted Lawrence.

As for the other nonsense you posted, Oklahoma's defense was a joke. Rushing three players and covering nobody definitely was not the answer against LSU, who had anywhere from three to five receivers wide open on virtually every passing play. I very seriously doubt that that coverage is coming anytime soon at the NFL level. Instead, the coverage will be tighter and many of Burrow's floating balls will be incomplete or intercepted.

Meanwhile, Lawrence, who has been clocked throwing harder than Mahomes does, will not have any such issue with which to deal at the NFL level. He is simply physically superior to Burrow.

Simly put, Lawrence is much more likely to achieve NFL greatness than Burrow.

[Boltjolt]

Sorry, but you could not be more wrong....for multiple reasons....

For one, IF lawrence were truly that great, he would have beaten Burrow in the championship game, or he would have at least looked good as a passer in that game and the previous bowl game, but he did not look good as a passer in either game.....

Lawrence is a big physical RUNNING RPO QB with some passing skills...... he lacks touch and accuracy when actually forced to throw the ball....... Lawrence and Hebert are very close physically..... with rocket arms..... but both throw almost entirely bullet passes and rarely show touch accuracy......

Burrow is a way way better QB than Lawrence..... in almost every way except for power running...... leadership, decision making, and accuracy are what are important in an elite QB......Burrow had the greatest season any QB in history has ever had and he did it against the best defenses in college football........ and in biggest games..... he threw 7 TD passes in first half against a team that will have multiple first round defenders drafted...... if you have hear him interviewed, he is confident but very smart, he says he wins games during the week with study and preparation......he is a complete cant miss franchise QB......

If Lawrence was better then Burrow, he would have come out this year...... and since he will be coming out next year, he will likely go number one overall.......most likely Chargers will finish around .500 next year...... which will mean we will be picking in the late teens or early 20's........ if we dont draft a QB at 6 or higher this year, we likely ben going all in on OL and defense and running game...... which will put us in that 7-9 to 8-8 record area....... we would have to have there worst record in NFL to get Lawrence, and he will be in high demand because there are no other options like there are this year...

Burrow is the clear number one this year and Tua is also a franchise type QB in terms of accuracy and play making ability...... Hebert is comparable to
Allen of buffalo but Hebert is far more accurate....... all 3 of those QB's, are better than Jones who was a huge reach last year......

Chargers are lucky to be at number 6 so we are close enough to new able to possibly trade up top number one or 2 or 3 too get the QB we want.... next year we will be too far away.......

Chargers have picks and some players we can trade....... if Chargers are not willing to pay Bosa big money he could be part of the deal..... if they are then Ingram, and others could be part of the deal.........

Chargers currently do NOT have a franchise QB own the roster so we have zero choice but to draft one........ if this team were great at all positions except QB then throwing money at Brady might be the answer to get a SB championship........ but sadly this team is far off and rebuilding..... and the rebuild starts with finding the right QB....... then you build pieces that support that QB and his skills/style..... That is how you build a team........

Forgot to add . ...Lawrence isn't coming out this year because he is a true Sophomore and isn't draft eligible. Will be eligible next year.

[Steve]

it might be worth remembering that it took 4 years for the Chargers to finally get a new QB when Fouts retired in 1988, before we got Stan in 1992 (4 yr gap)

Stan got hurt and retired in 1997 and in 1998 we used the 2nd pick in the draft on the QB many felt was the best QB in the draft in Ryan Leaf. (no gap)

Leaf left the Chargers in 2000, and in 2003 we drafted Brees. (3 year gap)

2006 replaced Brees with Rivers, even though Rivers was a 2004 1st round pick (no gap)

1st point, big gaps in the QB position in 1988-1992 and 2000-2002/3 when we also had little draft talent to fall back on.

It is worth noting that in the various periods, we had the #1 pick in the draft 2x (Eli/Rivers in 2004 and traded down to get LT in 2001) and the #2 pick (traded up for it in 1998), as well as the 8th pick in 1989 (DE- Burt Grossman), 5th pick in 1990 (Jr Seau), 9th pick in 1991 (Stanley Richard), 5th pick in 2002 (Jammer).

The Chargers have done exceedingly well at draft and develop their own QB. Since 1988 we have had 3 HOF in the QB room, as well as one of the worst draft busts in NFL history, and a round robin of different guys that worked miserably. This despite pretty good draft capital between QB.

[Sb4Rivers]

Chargers will trade up for Tua, when they could stay put and still get him. You heard it here first.

Rivers is fine, I know. He is excited for his next chapter. He will be a Colt Next Month.

BTW, I will be a bigger fan of Team Rivers.

[21&500]

https://www.profootballrumors.com/20...tua-tagovailoa

Weird same day news?

When the eventual happens... remember I called this shit months ago...
Miami goes Herbert over Tua
Tua lands on our laps
TPB in shock and awe that the most efficient qb in college history becomes a probowler/super bowl champ as a Charger....

months!!!!

[jamrock]

it might be worth remembering that it took 4 years for the Chargers to finally get a new QB when Fouts retired in 1988, before we got Stan in 1992 (4 yr gap)

Stan got hurt and retired in 1997 and in 1998 we used the 2nd pick in the draft on the QB many felt was the best QB in the draft in Ryan Leaf. (no gap)

Leaf left the Chargers in 2000, and in 2003 we drafted Brees. (3 year gap)

2006 replaced Brees with Rivers, even though Rivers was a 2004 1st round pick (no gap)

1st point, big gaps in the QB position in 1988-1992 and 2000-2002/3 when we also had little draft talent to fall back on.

It is worth noting that in the various periods, we had the #1 pick in the draft 2x (Eli/Rivers in 2004 and traded down to get LT in 2001) and the #2 pick (traded up for it in 1998), as well as the 8th pick in 1989 (DE- Burt Grossman), 5th pick in 1990 (Jr Seau), 9th pick in 1991 (Stanley Richard), 5th pick in 2002 (Jammer).

The Chargers have done exceedingly well at draft and develop their own QB. Since 1988 we have had 3 HOF in the QB room, as well as one of the worst draft busts in NFL history, and a round robin of different guys that worked miserably. This despite pretty good draft capital between QB.

Brees was drafted in 2001. Same year as LT

[El_Tee]

I hope at least some of you understand that Shawne Merriman just reiterated on Twitter that it was 100% joint decision and he wasn’t thrown out on his ass.

This narrative that the team owed Rivers a spot on his terms for as long as he wanted to play don’t understand history or business.

QBs as good or better than Rivers have had the exact same experience (or worse) leaving their old teams. Nobody “failed” Rivers. Not even close.

I wish him the best, and I’d be thrilled to see him get a ring. Seriously. No snark. He’s a better QB than so many that have won them. He never cheated. He was available, whether an ACL or broken ribs or whateverthefuck life threw at him. There’s a good chance he’s gone out there with the flu or other ailments too. 14 seasons and never missing a game is huge.

Thanks Philip Rivers. It’s been a roller coaster.