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  • Formula 21
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    #73
    Extra point

    Project Philip Rivers' current numbers over the full season, and you get this line: 384-for-548 (70.1 percent), 4,620 yards, 36 TDs, 4 INTs, 114.5 QB rating. How good is that? Well, in 2010, Tom Brady was a unanimous MVP after posting 3,900 yards passing, 36 TDs, 4 INTs and a 111.0 QB rating.
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    So ... Rivers has been pretty damn good, enough to make his two-year swoon of 2011 and '12 feel like it happened 20 years ago. And the rebound has come because, at 32, the quarterback has never been more in control of what's around him.

    "I see a guy who has complete mastery over the system," Bolts offensive coordinator Frank Reich said. "And what I see that's a cut above everyone else is what he does in protection and his understanding of what a defense is trying to do to him, his ability to identify and understand what teams are doing, where pressure's coming from, and the right protection call is at a level beyond what I can describe. It's not at graduate level. It's at PhD level."

    The best example of that is pretty mind-blowing. Reich describes rare moments he sees, in practices and games, where Rivers will actually make adjustments during his drops, carrying out a play-action fake while shouting to the back, "Need ya," as a way of telling him to stay in and block, an on-the-fly change that would almost qualify as in between pre-snap and post-snap adjustments.

    So what does this mastery do? For one, it allows the Chargers to optimize the combination of receivers and blockers deployed. If Rivers knows just how many guys he needs to stay in consistently, that gives the offense the advantage of releasing the highest number of players into routes on every play, which puts the greatest amount of stress on the defense. And from a personal standpoint, his knowledge of all things around him allows Rivers to let plays develop longer, giving teammates more time to get open.

    That's allowed Mike McCoy, Reich and the Chargers to build on what they did with Rivers last year, which was to emphasize taking easy completions to cut down on the risks that he's prone to take as a great deep-ball thrower. Pocket presence and ball security were the focus last year. He's been eyeing better footwork and finish this year.

    And with his 33rd birthday two months away, all of that work is why Rivers keeps getting better. He's every bit the coach's son and gym rat he ever was.

    "When I envisioned coaching, this is what I envisioned it being like -- working with a guy like this," Reich said. "We work hard, but we have a blast -- a lot of laughs, a lot of blood, a lot of sweat. We work together, and there's a mutual respect. There's a great chemistry on this team, and it's because of veterans like Philip. He's such a great leader, not just a great player, but a great leader."

    And the best might be yet to come.

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    • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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      #74
      Stop the love fest! Stay under the radar!!!
      Go Rivers!

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      • Bolt-O
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        #75
        Originally posted by Stinky Wizzleteats+ View Post
        Stop the love fest! Stay under the radar!!!
        That ship sailed with the Seattle win. However, this may be one of those seasons where the national bandwagon will pile on board for a non-QB for MVP, for Watt or for Murray instead of Rivers.

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        • Panamamike
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          #76
          Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post
          That ship sailed with the Seattle win. However, this may be one of those seasons where the national bandwagon will pile on board for a non-QB for MVP, for Watt or for Murray instead of Rivers.
          With my pre-season MVP bet on Rivers I hope like hell he gets it. I'd rather the TEAM wins it all, and I am sure he does too. Regardless, with his offensive scheme I am confident he will get his ring before it is all said and done.

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          • Formula 21
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            #77
            Originally posted by Bolt-O View Post
            That ship sailed with the Seattle win. However, this may be one of those seasons where the national bandwagon will pile on board for a non-QB for MVP, for Watt or for Murray instead of Rivers.
            A non-Rivers bet is a smart bet. Rivers, ew.
            Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
            The Wasted Decade is done.
            Build Back Better.

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            • BlazingBolt
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              #78
              Originally posted by Boltx View Post
              We should have won a Super Bowl in 2006.

              Probably would have won one in 2007 if we hadn't gimped into Foxboro with an injured LT/Gates and Rivers with one functional ACL.

              Probably would have won again in 2009 if Kaeding "the slit" had managed to kick a FG or two. To this day, I have no doubt in my heart, NO DOUBT, that we would have walked all over Indy the following week. Who the fuck loses to Mark fucking Sanchez????


              Fucking depressing thread, man.
              I disagree with the entire sentiment that we should have won a Super Bowl or superbowls. We were contenders but not some dominant team that others can't compete with.

              I hope we do win the Super Bowl but thinking we should saps all the enjoyment out of watching the team. This fan base did not deal well emotionally with the success of 14-2 (a team that was dominant against weak competition but not dominant compared to the entire league)
              migrated from chargerfans.net then the thenflforum.com then here

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              • Panamamike
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                #79
                Originally posted by BlazingBolt View Post
                I disagree with the entire sentiment that we should have won a Super Bowl or superbowls. We were contenders but not some dominant team that others can't compete with.

                I hope we do win the Super Bowl but thinking we should saps all the enjoyment out of watching the team. This fan base did not deal well emotionally with the success of 14-2 (a team that was dominant against weak competition but not dominant compared to the entire league)
                Personally I couldn't care less about the fans emotional state. Has no bearing on the games. I prefer being a yearly contender. It is exciting as hell and MUCH more preferable to mediocrity. I believe with the offensive system we are running now, it takes advantage of and accentuates our best player and gives us our best chance to win it all while he is our QB. It also lessens his hits and extends his career....unlike the outdated 5 and 7 yard drop offense that allows our QB to get lit up. I like the direction of this organization. I honestly believe Rivers will have at least one ring before he hangs em up.

                Edit: BTW I believe Rivers best attribute is his football acumen. The best par I his offense is the freedom he has to diagnose the D at the line of scrimmage.
                Last edited by Panamamike; 10-03-2014, 05:54 PM.

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                • Stinky Wizzleteats+
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                  #80
                  Good point, if Rivers viewed as NFL royalty he will get more protection from the refs!!!
                  Go Rivers!

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                    #81
                    Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
                    Personally I couldn't care less about the fans emotional state. Has no bearing on the games. I prefer being a yearly contender. It is exciting as hell and MUCH more preferable to mediocrity. I believe with the offensive system we are running now, it takes advantage of and accentuates our best player and gives us our best chance to win it all while he is our QB. It also lessens his hits and extends his career....unlike the outdated 5 and 7 yard drop offense that allows our QB to get lit up. I like the direction of this organization. I honestly believe Rivers will have at least one ring before he hangs em up.

                    Edit: BTW I believe Rivers best attribute is his football acumen. The best par I his offense is the freedom he has to diagnose the D at the line of scrimmage.
                    I'm the opposite. I want a Super Bowl victory or nothing at all. I've already seen "close, but no phat blunt," and I don't need to see it again. Going 4-12 doesn't ruin my Sundays - just a good excuse to drink and get high with the homies. I enjoyed watching Little Train James and Billy Ray Smith kick ass while knowing it didn't really matter if we lost. And, hey, if we won, I had even more reason to party. Every win was like a playoff victory. Okay, I wasn't smoking weed when Lionel James was playing - maybe I should have said Flutie Flakes. Anybody remember Flutie's brother being on our team? We sucked, but it was fun to go to the games.
                    Going 14-2 and losing to the Patriots - that was way too serious for my taste. Ruined the day and caused me to avoid watching any football highlights the entire offseason. No ESPN. No sports radio. No mention of football at all.
                    Last edited by thelightningwill; 10-03-2014, 06:54 PM.

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                    • thelightningwill
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                      Originally posted by Stinky Wizzleteats+ View Post
                      Good point, if Rivers viewed as NFL royalty he will get more protection from the refs!!!
                      I think the refs will still consider King Philip a royal pain in the ass.
                      Last edited by thelightningwill; 10-03-2014, 06:55 PM.

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                      • Panamamike
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                        #83
                        Originally posted by thelightningwill View Post
                        I'm the opposite. I want a Super Bowl victory or nothing at all. I've already seen "close, but no phat blunt," and I don't need to see it again. Going 4-12 doesn't ruin my Sundays - just a good excuse to drink and get high with the homies. I enjoyed watching Little Train James and Billy Ray Smith kick ass while knowing it didn't really matter if we lost. And, hey, if we won, I had even more reason to party. Every win was like a playoff victory. Okay, I wasn't smoking weed when Lionel James was playing - maybe I should have said Flutie Flakes. Anybody remember Flutie's brother being on our team? We sucked, but it was fun to go to the games.
                        Going 14-2 and losing to the Patriots - that was way too serious for my taste. Ruined the day and caused me to avoid watching any football highlights the entire offseason. No ESPN. No sports radio. No mention of football at all.
                        I guess I am realistic and have a semblance of emotional control. Lol. It is funny I say that....I am rather infamous in these parts as an extremely loud Bolts backer, with a tendency to scream profanities while watching the game at the Sportsbook. Super Bowl or nothing? Really? I like having a realistic shot each and every year. A lot goes in to winning it all....luck, health, right call at the right time etc. It is a game of odds. If you have a realistic shot each year, odds are u will get a ring.

                        You can keep your 4-12. I hope never to see those days again (also unrealistic). BTW I enjoyed little train etc. In the dark days after AF (after fouts). I enjoyed individual performances. I would much rather be a consistent winning organization. I would love to be fortunate enough to get another great QB immediately after Rivers. Without a great QB, consistent winning is a pipe dream. Pun intended
                        Last edited by Panamamike; 10-04-2014, 03:02 AM.

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                        • Panamamike
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                          #84
                          I liked this article about the weekly prep work: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/...y-preparation/

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