2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

[Critty]

Talent is talent. But dipping too often into the smaller schools who typically lose out on the top talent to the major programs is not a great recipe for success. It really should be a much more targeted approach. For instance if you look at all the Utah State players drafted recently. There really is only one great player that has been drafted out of that program in decades. Bobby Wagner. If Love develops then that would be 2. There are others that have played and started in the NFL. But only one impact player in Wagner.
Same for Idaho State. Jared Allen and that is it for impact players out of that program. Same with Texas State. The best player I can think of is Ricky Sanders WR or Bobby Watkins CB from like the early 1980s. Mager in rd 3 was the highest Texas State Bobcat drafted since 1984. It didn't work out. I like Mager speed and size. But I would have waited to 6th or 7th to spend a pick on him. A 3rd was way over paying for what should have been bargain shopping in the last two rds.

And then you can look at Alabama program and it's littered with players who were great impact players in NFL.

Just be very careful when shopping at the bargain stores trying to find a gem. It better stand out so bright that instead of thinking you are a genius who got a steal, you think I'm an idiot if I pass on this prospect. Like Randy Moss. But for the most part, you might want to go to major stores to find 53 gems for your franchise.

Telesco doesn't usually do more than one max from small programs in a draft.

Last year he had none.
Oregon, Oklahoma, UCLA, Virginia, Notre Dame, Ohio St.

But the year before. He went shopping at mom and pop shops all over the country. Delaware, Souix Falls, North Dakota State,
I don't think they will get anything from Stick and Pipkins looks like the NFL game is too much for him right now.

[jamrock]

Talent is talent. But dipping too often into the smaller schools who typically lose out on the top talent to the major programs is not a great recipe for success. It really should be a much more targeted approach. For instance if you look at all the Utah State players drafted recently. There really is only one great player that has been drafted out of that program in decades. Bobby Wagner. If Love develops then that would be 2. There are others that have played and started in the NFL. But only one impact player in Wagner.
Same for Idaho State. Jared Allen and that is it for impact players out of that program. Same with Texas State. The best player I can think of is Ricky Sanders WR or Bobby Watkins CB from like the early 1980s. Mager in rd 3 was the highest Texas State Bobcat drafted since 1984. It didn't work out. I like Mager speed and size. But I would have waited to 6th or 7th to spend a pick on him. A 3rd was way over paying for what should have been bargain shopping in the last two rds.

And then you can look at Alabama program and it's littered with players who were great impact players in NFL.

Just be very careful when shopping at the bargain stores trying to find a gem. It better stand out so bright that instead of thinking you are a genius who got a steal, you think I'm an idiot if I pass on this prospect. Like Randy Moss. But for the most part, you might want to go to major stores to find 53 gems for your franchise.

Telesco doesn't usually do more than one max from small programs in a draft.

Last year he had none.
Oregon, Oklahoma, UCLA, Virginia, Notre Dame, Ohio St.

But the year before. He went shopping at mom and pop shops all over the country. Delaware, Souix Falls, North Dakota State,
I don't think they will get anything from Stick and Pipkins looks like the NFL game is too much for him right now.

it should be common sense. If you believe the recruiters at the major college programs are doing their job then they have already weeded through the guys who end up at small schools. Of course they will all miss once in a while or a guy will develop late but it’s the exception not the rule

[wu-dai clan]

Tyreek Hill...University of West Alabama.

Ali Marpet...Hobart College.

[Critty]

Tyreek Hill...University of West Alabama.

Ali Marpet...Hobart College.

Name more than one drafted from those schools in last 20 years that succeeded in NFL.

[wu-dai clan]

In honor of
Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff...McGill University

LAC should select Pier-Olivier Lestage...University of Montreal.

No I cannot name more than one player from these schools.

Let's try University of Buffalo.
--Khalil Mack. may have heard of him.
--Gerry Philbin. DE NYJ Round 3 1964.
--Brandin Oliver. ex Charger.
--Garet Patterson. RB Round 5 2021.
--Kayode Awosika. OT Round 7 2021

[Fleet]

Added the PFF Mock Sim to our Navbar drop down.

https://www.pff.com/draft/nfl-mock-draft-simulator

[Critty]

In honor of
Laurent Duvernay-Tardiff...McGill University

LAC should select Pier-Olivier Lestage...University of Montreal.

No I cannot name more than one player from these schools.

Let's try University of Buffalo.
--Khalil Mack. may have heard of him.
--Gerry Philbin. DE NYJ Round 3 1964.
--Brandin Oliver. ex Charger.
--Garet Patterson. RB Round 5 2021.
--Kayode Awosika. OT Round 7 2021

Lets stick to major programs shopping. And if a Mack or a Wagner or Jared Allen or or Duvernay-Tardiff is a gem then from time to time take a swing.

Telesco took 3 swings in 2019 draft. That is not a recipe for successful drafting.

[Bolt4Knob]

Lets stick to major programs shopping. And if a Mack or a Wagner or Jared Allen or or Duvernay-Tardiff is a gem then from time to time take a swing.

Telesco took 3 swings in 2019 draft. That is not a recipe for successful drafting.

Agree with both of your posts. TElesco also has fallen in love with players from Notre Dame. I say, fall in love with players from Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State for petes sakes. And yes, there are players from small schools that hit but stick to the basics - maybe lower ceiling but higher floor. Pipkin and Mager might have had higher ceilings than other players, but their floors are probably lower. Stick too.

[gzubeck]

Agree with both of your posts. TElesco also has fallen in love with players from Notre Dame. I say, fall in love with players from Alabama, Clemson or Ohio State for petes sakes. And yes, there are players from small schools that hit but stick to the basics - maybe lower ceiling but higher floor. Pipkin and Mager might have had higher ceilings than other players, but their floors are probably lower. Stick too.

This...especially when drafting for interior olinemen in the 2nd-5th rounds.

[sonorajim]

How can TT make the team better without an OL? Assuming he wants to make us a playoff team. BPA in the 1st is the best OL.

[Leslie Grossman]

Tyreek Hill...University of West Alabama.

Ali Marpet...Hobart College.

Hill was booted fro Okie State because he was already a piece of shit, yes Marpet was one of the vary rare late bloomers

[wu-dai clan]

Hill was booted fro Okie State because he was already a piece of shit, yes Marpet was one of the vary rare late bloomers

Attacking a pregnant girlfriend puts you on DND list IMV.