2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

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  • sonorajim
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
    Next year, the way to beat KC will still be to outscore them.
    Ya Think?

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    • Charge!
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      Originally posted by Topcat View Post

      It will also help to get some good cover corners...The Bucs kind of gave us a blueprint on how to beat Mahomes--cover his first and second reads early and well, (including a solid and quick LB to cover Kelce) while bringing the heat--then, contain Patrick when he scrambles, so set the edge...then it's usually either a sack or incomplete...so, note to TT:

      1. Need cover corners
      2. Need a solid Edge on the other side of Bosa to bring the heat
      3. Need another Edge or two in the rotation to keep everyone fresh

      That is all.
      We also need INSIDE pass rush...... TB has 2 great DT's..... Chargers have none.....

      next thing to remember is that the best NFL defenses(TB, Rams, BALT, NO, ...) used FA or trades to acquire many of their top playerrs......

      I would love to know what Staley actually thinks about our existing talent or lack of?..... maybe Gus has been just badly using our talent in not the best ways?..... maybe our peersonnel are better then they appear if they are used correctly?

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      • Topcat
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        Originally posted by Charge! View Post

        We also need INSIDE pass rush...... TB has 2 great DT's..... Chargers have none.....

        next thing to remember is that the best NFL defenses(TB, Rams, BALT, NO, ...) used FA or trades to acquire many of their top playerrs......

        I would love to know what Staley actually thinks about our existing talent or lack of?..... maybe Gus has been just badly using our talent in not the best ways?..... maybe our peersonnel are better then they appear if they are used correctly?
        Good points, Charge.

        Note to TT: See above ^

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        • Berserker76
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          Originally posted by Charge! View Post

          We also need INSIDE pass rush...... TB has 2 great DT's..... Chargers have none.....

          next thing to remember is that the best NFL defenses(TB, Rams, BALT, NO, ...) used FA or trades to acquire many of their top playerrs......

          I would love to know what Staley actually thinks about our existing talent or lack of?..... maybe Gus has been just badly using our talent in not the best ways?..... maybe our peersonnel are better then they appear if they are used correctly?
          I think Fleet agrees with you there, Charge!.

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            Originally posted by Charge! View Post

            We also need INSIDE pass rush...... TB has 2 great DT's..... Chargers have none.....

            next thing to remember is that the best NFL defenses(TB, Rams, BALT, NO, ...) used FA or trades to acquire many of their top playerrs......

            I would love to know what Staley actually thinks about our existing talent or lack of?..... maybe Gus has been just badly using our talent in not the best ways?..... maybe our peersonnel are better then they appear if they are used correctly?
            I mean, thats why when people suggest, especially in the 1st Round, drafting a WR or Pitts; signing Juju - I am like -- are we watching the same team?

            The Chargers NEED: Edge, OT, DT, another IOL, CB and probably another CB (Harris and Hayward aren't getting younger. So right there - I think that is 6 of the 9 draft picks. So yes, even DT is an option in Rd 1

            I see the talent on the roster and I think its pretty good - but I also think there specific areas Telesco needs to address above the wants

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            • sonorajim
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              Originally posted by Charge! View Post

              We also need INSIDE pass rush...... TB has 2 great DT's..... Chargers have none.....

              next thing to remember is that the best NFL defenses(TB, Rams, BALT, NO, ...) used FA or trades to acquire many of their top playerrs......

              I would love to know what Staley actually thinks about our existing talent or lack of?..... maybe Gus has been just badly using our talent in not the best ways?..... maybe our peersonnel are better then they appear if they are used correctly?
              Suh used to be great. Still a solid run defender who can get penetration occasionally. Vea is a rock at NT and can walk the pocket back. JPP was the star of that DL
              Linval was a star rookie on same DL with JPP that won a SB with NYG. He may be a step down from Suh - not as far as you seem to think.
              Jones & Tillery are just OK. I don't know if the book is closed on them after their 2nd- 3rd years. I agree that we need to get more from their position. - Like consistently draw extra blocking. Apparently Bosa needs more help, he sure isn't playing at JPP level. Maybe another edge rusher?

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              • chargeroo
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                I remember that Jamal Williams didn't blossom until his third year, but when he did - he was the best DT in the league.

                All I'm saying is - there's still hope for our young DT's.
                THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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                • Bearded14YourPleasure
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                  Sewell is the Duck everyone is salivating over this year but if he’s there in round 2 Jevon Holland from Oregon would be a great addition. He’s Desmond King with a lot more athleticism. Could start at FS or Nickel Day 1. His varied skill set next to DJ’s would allow Staley to be ultra creative with the backend.

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post
                    Sewell is the Duck everyone is salivating over this year but if he’s there in round 2 Jevon Holland from Oregon would be a great addition. He’s Desmond King with a lot more athleticism. Could start at FS or Nickel Day 1. His varied skill set next to DJ’s would allow Staley to be ultra creative with the backend.
                    He can be the conductor at Two High Safety. Holland has highest level football IQ, processing and tackling on his plus side. He is not overly athletic. There is versatility. He can work at Slot. This is right all key with disguising coverages.
                    We do not play modern football.

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                    • UtahBolt
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                      Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post
                      Sewell is the Duck everyone is salivating over this year but if he’s there in round 2 Jevon Holland from Oregon would be a great addition. He’s Desmond King with a lot more athleticism. Could start at FS or Nickel Day 1. His varied skill set next to DJ’s would allow Staley to be ultra creative with the backend.
                      Is Kayvon Thibodeaux coming out? That dude is an athletic freak that can flat out play. Damn, as a Ute fan I will be glad when he is in the NFL...
                      I'll ride the wave...where it takes me.

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                      • like54ninjas
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                        Originally posted by UtahBolt View Post

                        Is Kayvon Thibodeaux coming out? That dude is an athletic freak that can flat out play. Damn, as a Ute fan I will be glad when he is in the NFL...
                        Not till 2022.
                        My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

                        MikeDub
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                        Nasir
                        Tillery
                        Parham
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                        • chargerkdb
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                          Originally posted by chargeroo View Post
                          I remember that Jamal Williams didn't blossom until his third year, but when he did - he was the best DT in the league.

                          All I'm saying is - there's still hope for our young DT's.
                          Jamal was a prototype 3-4 NT playing in a 4-3 his first 3 years. He truly blossomed when we switched to a 3-4 in his 4th or 5th year.

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