2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

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  • AK47
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    Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

    And the speed thing is why Casey Hayward is probably being released for me. Can't keep up with KC with older guys

    I probably am bringing Harris back though - think he has one more good year
    If this all works out perhaps our new defensive scheme extends Heyward's career another season or 2 at a high level.

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    • chargeroo
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      Originally posted by UtahBolt View Post

      Is Kayvon Thibodeaux coming out? That dude is an athletic freak that can flat out play. Damn, as a Ute fan I will be glad when he is in the NFL...
      You have to put up with him one more year. He'll be a first round pick in the next draft. As a Ducks fan, I love him!
      THE YEAR OF THE FLIP!

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      • dmac_bolt
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        Originally posted by Xenos View Post

        He’s a good #2 corner IMO. And that will be fine if we get a #1 in the draft. Otherwise, we’ll have to hope he becomes a #1 or that Staley’s scheme helps him.
        Agree, he’s a #2 and we don’t have a #1 CB on the roster.
        “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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        • Bolt4Knob
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          Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

          Agree, he’s a #2 and we don’t have a #1 CB on the roster.
          Agreed - the Chargers need to address CB in this draft.

          OT, Edge and CB - Telesco has his work cut out for him

          I read something yesterday that the best edge rushers are taken in the first round. That might have to change how TT does business. Though if a guy like Slater is there at 13 - he should be the pick. But maybe if not Slater, and Parsons is there...

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          • Xenos
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            Dane Brugler latest mock has us taking Vera-Tucker with our 13th pick.
            https://theathletic.com/2378777/2021...ds-trey-lance/

            13. Los Angeles Chargers — Alijah Vera-Tucker, OT/G, USC

            A priority this offseason is for the Chargers is to make upgrades on the offensive line to help protect Justin Herbert. After earning early-round grades at guard after the 2019 season, Vera-Tucker replaced Austin Jackson at left tackle this past season and more than held his own, proving his position versatility. | Beat writer analysis: Daniel Popper reacts to the pick

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            • eaterfan
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              Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

              Agreed - the Chargers need to address CB in this draft.

              OT, Edge and CB - Telesco has his work cut out for him

              I read something yesterday that the best edge rushers are taken in the first round. That might have to change how TT does business. Though if a guy like Slater is there at 13 - he should be the pick. But maybe if not Slater, and Parsons is there...
              The best players at most positions are taken earlier, especially at premium positions.

              The best OTs; Pace, Thomas, Ogden; were all top 5 picks. Edge rushers like both Bosas, Chase Young, Peppers, Mack, and Aaron Donald we're all top 5 picks also.

              There are definitely great players at both those positions that were taken outside the top 5 and even outside the first and second round. It just might be that you need good coaching to develop that talent and utilize it well in the scheme.

              It turns out having top 5 picks is valuable.

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              • Bolt4Knob
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                Originally posted by eaterfan View Post

                The best players at most positions are taken earlier, especially at premium positions.

                The best OTs; Pace, Thomas, Ogden; were all top 5 picks. Edge rushers like both Bosas, Chase Young, Peppers, Mack, and Aaron Donald we're all top 5 picks also.

                There are definitely great players at both those positions that were taken outside the top 5 and even outside the first and second round. It just might be that you need good coaching to develop that talent and utilize it well in the scheme.

                It turns out having top 5 picks is valuable.
                Maybe my quote was not correct but I think Jason was just pointing out that his data - edge rushers have less success later in the draft where other positions you might get more success not just from first rounders but mid-rounders

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                • Bearded14YourPleasure
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                  Originally posted by eaterfan View Post

                  The best players at most positions are taken earlier, especially at premium positions.

                  The best OTs; Pace, Thomas, Ogden; were all top 5 picks. Edge rushers like both Bosas, Chase Young, Peppers, Mack, and Aaron Donald we're all top 5 picks also.

                  There are definitely great players at both those positions that were taken outside the top 5 and even outside the first and second round. It just might be that you need good coaching to develop that talent and utilize it well in the scheme.

                  It turns out having top 5 picks is valuable.
                  Aaron Donald was taken 13th. Which is where we happen to be drafting this year.

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                  • wu-dai clan
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                    Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post

                    Aaron Donald was taken 13th. Which is where we happen to be drafting this year.
                    Will mark you down for Barmore.
                    We do not play modern football.

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                    • Bearded14YourPleasure
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                      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                      Will mark you down for Barmore.
                      Oh no, not what I was saying. OP just stated that Donald was a top 5 pick, he was picked at 13. You don’t need a top 5 pick to get premium talent was my only point. Plenty of all time greats drafted outside the top 5, plenty of busts taken top 5 as well. Sewell, Slater, Surtain, Farley, trade down and draft best IOL is my preference at 13.

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                      • like54ninjas
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                        Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                        Will mark you down for Barmore.
                        Alim McNeill #1 DT in the 2021 class OMB.
                        My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

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                        • wu-dai clan
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                          Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                          Alim McNeill #1 DT in the 2021 class OMB.
                          VERY quick get off, eh ?
                          We do not play modern football.

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