2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Formula 21]

Works out very well for us if this happens:

I just can’t see the Giants passing on JJ if he is there at 6. And I think they try to move up to ensure they get him. AZ or LA? Somebody is moving up before them.

Daniels is getting $44 mill or so this year. I think he is a prime trade/cut candidate.

[Formula 21]

absolutely not. JH came here specifically for JH. He knows he didn't win the SB before because he had "lesser QBs". This aint' NCAA and fortunately for us JH knows the difference.

And lesser receivers do not make for great QBs. So let’s not turn Herbert into a JAG.

[Jack Burton]

This morning DraftKings had Nabers a 2-1 favorite to go to Chargers.
MH2 was a 12-1 favorite…

Right now Harrison is +750 to go to the Chargers….

[electricgold]

If the Chargers stay @5 and they go WR Nabers or MHJ both seem like they could potentially be Herbert's #1 WR and either one a perfect replacement for an aging Allen! QJ seems like also if he develops and improves could be a perfect replacement for MW in Romans offense! Palmer could be a really good number 3 and Davis a solid #4! I think we'll be fine we just need to add a stud WR!

[Formula 21]

Am I missing something on MHJ? I see a lot of posts including him in our options to draft, but I can't imagine hardly any scenario where he is available at 5.

AZ trades the pick to a QB needy team needing to get ahead of NYG at 6.

[Formula 21]

Trades by the Vikings and Chargers complicate the Top 5 - What does it mean for the Giants?


The Giants’ draft plans got more complicated after the Vikings and Chargers made trades Friday morning

By Chris Pflum@RaptormkII Mar 15, 2024, 11:22am EDT
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Things got more interesting — or perhaps nervous — for the New York Giants on Friday morning thanks to a pair of trades.

The big news of the morning (so far, as of this writing) is that the Minnesota Vikings have acquired the 23rd overall pick from the Houston Texans, per reports.

According to a report from Ian Rapoport and Tom Pelissero, the Vikings traded picks 42, 188, and their 2025 second round pick to the Texans for picks 23 and 232.

The Vikings have been heavily rumored to be a leading candidate for a trade up into the Top 5 for a quarterback after Kirk Cousins signed with the Atlanta Falcons. However, they didn’t really have much in the way of trade capital, having just the 11th and 42nd picks in the top 100 of this year’s class.

That’s changed now that they have the 11th and 23rd picks as trade ammo — as well as just adding Sam Darnold on a one-year deal.

Things got even more complicated with the news Thursday night that the Los Angeles Chargers have traded wide receiver Keenan Allen to the Chicago Bears and are releasing wide receiver Mike Williams. That might signal heavily that they are either looking at a receiver with the fifth overall pick. It could also mean that they’re open to moving down and acquiring more picks in a draft class that is deep on the offensive line as well as wide receiver.

Turning to the Giants’ side of things, we received many reports coming out of the 2024 NFL Scouting Combine that the Giants are looking closely at this year’s quarterback class.

We’ve seen many reporters and analysts from a variety of outlets speak about the Giants as being in pursuit of a quarterback. The fact that they are prominent national reporters and are willing to attach their name and reputation to those reports lend them weight. They’ve reported that the Giants are “done” with Daniel Jones due to his injury concerns and poor play prior to his injuries.

Meanwhile, we reports recently surfaced that the Giants told free agent quarterback Drew Lock that he would have the opportunity to compete to be the starting quarterback. RELATED The Giants’ quarterback soap opera continues to spin

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At the same time, the Giants don’t have as much draft capital as they did a week ago, after sending a second round pick to the Carolina Panthers for edge Brian Burns.

If the Vikings are set on trading up to fourth or fifth overall to jump the Giants for a quarterback, it might become a very competitive bidding war.

That wouldn’t be anything new for Joe Schoen. He was the Buffalo Bills’ assistant GM when they essentially traded two first round picks, (21st overall, 12th overall), two second round picks (53, 56), a fifth round pick (158), and left tackle Cordy Glenn from 21st overall up to sevetnth overall for Josh Allen.

It would take a lot the Giants to top the Vikings offering the Chargers the ability to replace Allen and find offensive line help in one draft — or offering the Cardinals the chance to have three first round picks in a very talented draft.

If they feel they don’t have a choice in the matter, we could see Schoen forced to get very aggressive between now and April 25th. Joe Schoen and Brian Daboll might not be on the hot seat yet, but they also can’t allow themselves to passively be backed into a corner by the rest of the NFL. We’ve seen how quickly seats can heat up in New York.

[richpjr]

Am I missing something on MHJ? I see a lot of posts including him in our options to draft, but I can't imagine hardly any scenario where he is available at 5.

There are some who think Nabers is a better WR, but the most likely way, and not that far fetched, is a team like the Vikings trading up to get the AZ pick and MH would fall to us.

[charger1_sj]

There are some who think Nabers is a better WR, but the most likely way, and not that far fetched, is a team like the Vikings trading up to get the AZ pick and MH would fall to us.

The Giants can trade with Arizona. It's a better solution for the Giants and Arizona. Arizona can still get one of the big 3 WRs and the Giants get their QB. That leaves
the Vikings in a bit of a dilemma, unless NE gives up their pick. I see lots of possibilities with picks 3-6.

[gzubeck]

There are some who think Nabers is a better WR, but the most likely way, and not that far fetched, is a team like the Vikings trading up to get the AZ pick and MH would fall to us.

Either one is a drink of fresh water for a team that has drained the well!

[Boltjolt]

The other side of that coin is that getting a "franchise" QB when you have nothing around him may only ruin the guy (see Mac Jones after year 1, Bryce Young, Justin Fields, David Carr, etc.). The Pats may want to build their roster first and then go get the QB.

Usually works the other way around. Get the QB when you can, then build around him

[Boltjolt]

No that’s the point. We aren’t trading back. They likely will trade up to 4 to try to get Maye. We get Harrison Jr. at 5

Why wouldn't we trade back? We need alot. Defense is depleted. Offense still has needs.
At 11 we can get maybe Odunze or Bowers. Either would be great and extra picks would be great and we can trade again down from 23.

[Javia]

Why wouldn't we trade back? We need alot. Defense is depleted. Offense still has needs.
At 11 we can get maybe Odunze or Bowers. Either would be great and extra picks would be great and we can trade again down from 23.

The Vikings 2 first round picks are valuable enough to move up to pick #3. I'm sure that they would rather have the 3rd best quarterback in the draft as opposed to the 4th. Even if they did trade with the Chargers, I would think that Harbaugh would be dreaming about Taliese Fuaga and Jackson Powers-Johnston with those picks.