2024 Chargers Draft Superthread - Prospect Discussion - Draft Has Started

[Bolt4Knob]

No. MIN would be giving up a 2025 1st too.
I was just putting down what this year would look like.
QB tax is real.

Cardinals get a helluva lot to go from 4 to 11

[dmac_bolt]

Jon Cooper, the head scout at Ourlads, was the long time head coach at Bdnedictine College. He has been at Ourlads for 23 years. That's right Ourlads is "distinguished", assholes.

Meanwhile, at least Tony Pauline likes Led Zeppelin
and
Matt Miller likes IPAs.

Benedictine college? uh ok. I didn't realize his pedigree.

I like Led Zeppelin ...

[Jack Burton]

Cardinals get a helluva lot to go from 4 to 11

The price you pay for a QB.
Now there’s a bunch of chatter that the Patriots GM likes JJ. If Maye falls, then it’s really all over cause that’s the guy MIN really wants. McCown was his QB mentor and coach in HS.
And after he blew up his Pro Day, there’s a bunch of chatter that Pennix is gonna go higher than 1st thought…
Vegas want him bad…

[Chargers8491]

I wonder if we’ll see anything like this from Hortiz and Harbaugh after the draft.

I'm fairly certain if MHJ is there and Viking trade up with the Cards to get a QB, the Cards will likely try and trade up with the Chargers to get MHJ. If the Cards are serious about going all in with Murray as their QB they need to give him some weapons.

[wu-dai clan]

I think the general consensus of the Alt haters here is that we are concerned with his anchor and in his ability to redirect himself, given that he has a high center of mass.
We've seen tape where he struggles at times with both issues.

We also are not overly impressed with his manning up and resetting the line of scrimmage with his run blocking.
He'd probably go best in a heavy zone blocking scheme.

Then there is the uncertainty with moving to the opposite side: the old wiping your behind with the opposite hand analogy.
Some are more ambidextrous than others.

Than, there is the perceived gap between the rookie and the incumbent:

Alt > Pumpkins

Nabers >>>> Butterfingers

Too many issues at #5.

The GMs at Ourlads can select him at #3 for all I care.

I brought up Carl Brooks. Last year, I was seeing good things, and none of the pros were seeing it.

When a significant portion of the legitimate experts have takes that you are not seeing, it's a good time to double back and keep searching. What am I missing ?

Well, Eric Fisher did make two Pro Bowls and he does have a Super Bowl ring.

[Topcat]

I think all 3 teams already have a deal in place.
Everyone gets what they want. MIN gets their QB.
AZ gets 5-23-108. LAC get 11-27-90

I remember reading somewhere that teams typically have these deals worked out well ahead of draft day. Of course, there are contingencies. If, for example, some team unexpectedly trades up and nabs the QB the Vikes have targeted, the deal could be off...

[SAY OW 55]

I don’t like the Andrew Thomas comparison. I hope Joe Alt is not Andrew Thomas.

More and More I’d Like Romeo Oudunzie and I’d take Romeo Oudunzie over Malike Nabers. I think Marvin Harrison Jr. and Romeo Oudunzie are 1 and 1A .

[SAY OW 55]

Shit don’t work like that. There aren’t participation trophy’s. You can’t just trade up and get a hall of fame receiver at 5. If Marvin Harrison Jr. is there at 5 we’re taking him. And drafting him.

[Jack Burton]

I remember reading somewhere that teams typically have these deals worked out well ahead of draft day. Of course, there are contingencies. If, for example, some team unexpectedly trades up and nabs the QB the Vikes have targeted, the deal could be off...

It’s true. There’s nothing to hide this high in the draft. Everyone knows what the other teams are doing and its basically irrelevant at this point. These GM are all talking to each other. I have no doubt whatsoever that MIN getting 23 was specifically in response to NE, AZ and LAC telling MIN what would be acceptable range for that 2nd 1st rounder. And they did it. Showing they are serious. MIN has been setting the table with these top teams.
And that means something on draft day. They’ve been working with you for over 2 months and they’ve blown draft capitol to do what you are asking them to do. Moneys on the table now….
Now, if I’m a team that wants Pennix, that’s another story. I’m sure their are teams playing chicken and lying through their teeth depending on where they think they can go get him. That’s a completely different situation.
Everyone knows what’s what in the top 5 teams, but by pick 6, it’s starts getting dicey cause NYG might just want a QB too and you got 2 teams right behind you who want Pennix in DEN and LV. I’m not telling those teams anything if I’m a GM trying to move up to 5 or 6 and snag Pennix.

[Jack Burton]

Shit don’t work like that. There aren’t participation trophy’s. You can’t just trade up and get a hall of fame receiver at 5. If Marvin Harrison Jr. is there at 5 we’re taking him. And drafting him.

What if you get a Julio Jones offer?
2 1st rounders
1 2nd rounder
2 4th rounders

[21&500]

I certainly subscribe to this post.
TPB has no problem visualizing any of the big four weapons making big plays.
Try visualizing the Chargers having a great offensive line on both the left and the right side.
Herbert would be able to roll out either way.
We could run either side, at will.
The pocket would be comfortable.
Do you really think Harbaugh does not see ALL of this ?

Best case scenario is having dominating bookend tackles but speaking for only myself, from our vantage point there are too many unknowns we are not privy to, to confidently advocate for Alt over other high floor weapons who are also PONs.

As far as the "lack of mauling" I don't care.
I think it's physically more impressive to play under control without "mauling". I realize that's not exactly the same thing, but I've noticed that a lot of times when players are described as "maulers" that is sometimes confused with erratic and.over exertion.

If we draft Alt, I'll assume there is a solid plan and every risk has been vetted.

[SAY OW 55]

Let me explain it yall? Any of yall play baseball in here? Or have played baseball?

going from left tackle to right tackle when you played left tackle your whole career. Is like having to bat right handed when you batted left handed your whole career.