Originally posted by Kellyb72601
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And With The 5th Pick Of The NFL Draft Chargers Select....Discussion
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I'm not sure about that personally I haven't looked at the Oline much but I think Bowers is the most likely hall of famer in this class I've seen and likely there at #5. I think the only thing that can prevent him from being that is injuries. He was a 1 man offensive army in the toughest conference in football and he's been that way literally ever since he stepped foot on campus as a freshman. But there are plenty of reasons teams can convince themselves to draft someone else - team needs and salary concerns to name a few. Then Hortiz drafted Hayden Hurst in the 1st round, probably likes him, and he is a pretty good player. So I think if they don't trade down they'll take Nabers. I really like Nabers but Bowers = almost surefire blue chip.
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If you like Bowers get him after a trade down. He’ll be cheaper and you’ll get extra compensation. All indications are that by year 2 MHJ is a top 10 receiver in the league. And Nabers is a higher floor/higher ceiling guy, but he’s a monster. These might very well be two of the three best receiving prospects since 2016.
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Originally posted by Parcells View PostIf you like Bowers get him after a trade down. He’ll be cheaper and you’ll get extra compensation. All indications are that by year 2 MHJ is a top 10 receiver in the league. And Nabers is a higher floor/higher ceiling guy, but he’s a monster. These might very well be two of the three best receiving prospects since 2016.
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Originally posted by Parcells View PostPeople keep bringing up KC having won two super bowls without a top WR. First, their defense is now elite. Second, there offense struggled plenty without a legit WR.
One unit needs to be elite and defense stills wins championships and forces rule changes to favor offense.
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Originally posted by Geezbolt View Post
Listening to Money Smith and Lo Neal's podcast yesterday, they kind of echoed what you're saying. If I heard right, to take Bowers at #5 would make him the 3rd or 4th highest paid TE in the league, on his rookie contract. OTOH, top WR's are currently getting $20-30 million. It would make much more sense to take MHJ, or even Nabers at #5 and have one them on a rookie contract for 4 years. Smith also said if MHJ is there at #5, you take him, period. If not, you entertain trade offers. He's not opposed to taking Nabers at #5, but dosn't feel he's as polished yet as MHJ.
Man if you have a podcast, research goes a long ways to credibility.
I'll post it again.
Bowers cap hit would be right above Conklin on that list. At 5 his total contract would be 32 mil so you can see the others there.
Id think Smith would be better than that and this is why I dont really listen to other nobody podcasters much. Only here and there.
Lazyness and I can research better myself lol. But sometimes I don't want to unless something sounds fishy.
Last edited by Boltjolt; 03-29-2024, 04:44 PM.
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Don't hang Smith out to dry yet . I did qualify it by saying, "If I heard right", and at 73 years of age, it's always a possibility I didn't . I'll go back and listen to it again. I think the point though is still valid that, strictly from a business standpoint, taking a top WR at #5 and having them on a rookie contract for 4 years is preferable to taking a TE at #5 making the same money.
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Originally posted by Parcells View PostIf you like Bowers get him after a trade down. He’ll be cheaper and you’ll get extra compensation. All indications are that by year 2 MHJ is a top 10 receiver in the league. And Nabers is a higher floor/higher ceiling guy, but he’s a monster. These might very well be two of the three best receiving prospects since 2016.
At 10, NYJ will greet him with open arms.
Can you imagine a deal with CHI ? They could get C. Williams and M. Harrison jr.
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Originally posted by Geezbolt View PostDon't hang Smith out to dry yet . I did qualify it by saying, "If I heard right", and at 73 years of age, it's always a possibility I didn't . I'll go back and listen to it again. I think the point though is still valid that, strictly from a business standpoint, taking a top WR at #5 and having them on a rookie contract for 4 years is preferable to taking a TE at #5 making the same money.
But I've mis spoke on things before so it happens.
​​second contracts for TEs are cheaper than for WRs.
If they ball out equally....in 4 years
Bowers may be 4 years 68-70 mil.
MHJ/Nabers may be 4 years 140 mil
Will Hortiz pay that? Idk his habits yet.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
That is false. He would be in the middle of the league. Ive posted that list twice now.
Man if you have a podcast, research goes a long ways to credibility.
I'll post it again.
Bowers cap hit would be right above Conklin on that list. At 5 his total contract would be 32 mil so you can see the others there.
Id think Smith would be better than that and this is why I dont really listen to other nobody podcasters much. Only here and there.
Lazyness and I can research better myself lol. But sometimes I don't want to unless something sounds fishy.
https://overthecap.com/position/tight-endWe do not play modern football.
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