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2019 Draft Prospects To Keep An Eye On
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Originally posted by Topcat View Post
I also have some serious concerns about Adderley's durability...first he injured an ankle before the combine...then he pulled a hammy during his pro day...hmmmm...we don't need a Verrett 2.0...
When's v19 ?We do not play modern football.
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"FINAL" mock (probably)
28) JUAN THORNHILL (FS) UVA
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SR. 6', 205#, 8 3/4'' HANDS, 31 1/8'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.42, 10YS - , VJ - 44'', BJ - 141'', 3CONE - , 20S - , 60S - . Juan is a naturally gifted, instinctual, fast, explosive, ballhawk that has CB skills and is relentless. He has great feet, excellent flexibility, loose hips, natural movement skills, uncanny ball separation skills, makes BIG plays in BIG games, played all DB positions (CB/FS/SS), HUGE production - 13 INTs/26 PBUs/208 tackles, tremendous mirror skills, overaggressive at times/susceptible to double moves, eyes always have him near the ball, sees and goes on run fills, takes excellent angles, solid wrap up tackler but not a thumper, hand strikes in press are accurate/forceful, disrupts routes at LOS, can be a half tick off as high safety but has the physical tools so can still make the range - very coachable and will speed up with reps at position. Juan's value as a backend chess piece and our FS is an ideal fit. His range as our FS is from far hash 2 sideline , can cover any WR/RB/TE M2M, coverage disguise/flexibility, enhance Derwin's impact, eliminate explosive plays, and generate TOs. IMPACT STARTER w/ELITE TRAITS
WHY? MONSTER talent, big PON, skillset will make the entire defense better, my #10 prospect
60) RENELL WREN (DT) ASU
wren.jfif
RSR. 6' 4 1/2'', 318#, 10'' HANDS, 33 7/8'' ARMS, 81'' WINGSPAN, 40YD - 5. 1, 10YS - 1.75, VJ - 32'', BJ - 9' 10'', 30 REPS @ 225, 3CONE - 7.65, 20S - 4.53. Big physical explosive beast! Played NT at ASU but fits best as a 3tech and passing situation NT. Very stout against run, + body control thru contact, excellent pad level play, exceptionally strong (still can get stronger), Ideal frame/length/upfield explosion, can be a true backfield disruptor, resets LOS, active hands, hand placements/techniques are non existent -real area of opportunity here, attack plans need to be developed. Renell has the whole package and upside to be a dominant probowl caliber player. Are his work ethic, coachability, and football IQ up to it? I believe so! STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT w/IMPACT TRAITS.
Why? We only have 3 DT on the roster currently. Ascending talent at huge PON, ideal size, move to 3tech with his disruption is an ideal fit for our BOLTS.
91) MAX SCHARPING (OT) NIU
scharping.jfif
RSR. 6'6'', 324#, 9 3/4'' hands, 33 5/8'' arms, 79'' wingspan. Ironman/4 yr starter, played both ROT/LOT w/ a few games at OG, only allowed 2 sacks in 4 years, played best against top competition, short choppy footwork in kickslide allows for easy body adjustments, good hand placement but needs to provide more shock value w/punch, excellent down blocker, easily works combo blocks to 2nd/3rd levels, dominant grip strength - when he gets his hands inside the rep is over, gets movement @ POA after initial stalemate, gets beat inside when his hands are wide to start, good recovery to counters, must improve strength and ability to anchor early in reps, easily makes reach & scoop blocks, patient in pass sets and rarely out of position. Max will need to get into our S&C PROGRAM to maximize his already impressive skillset and ability to anchor bull rushers. STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT W/SOME IMPACT TRAITS.
Why? Tevi's performance last season requires an upgrade while he is still developing, depth, Okung's age/contract/plan ahead.
130) JAMEL DEAN (CB) AUB
dean.jfif
RJR. 6' 1'', 206#, 9 1/8'' HANDS, 31 3/4'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.3, 10YS - , BP - 16 REPS @ 225, VJ - 41'', BJ - 130'', 3CONE - 7.02, 20S - 4.19, 60S - . Jamel is an athletic freak who started out at OSU before being declared medically ineligible due to multi knee surgeries in HS. This lead him to transfer to AUB and during spring 16 had another knee injury requiring surgery. He has been healthy since but must be a big factor in his draft status. Jamel is a long press corner with insane acceleration, length, physicality, and ball separation skills. Extremely physical when in press, solid transition footwork, excellent punch placement which causes route/timing disruption, solid form tackler who relishes run support opportunities, good football IQ in route concept understanding (former HS receiver), fights for ball at highest point, little overconfident in his recovery speed, flexibility limited with hips on tight inside breaking routes, gets too handsy on digs/comeback routes, ability to bait QB with recovery speed/instincts. IMPACT PROSPECT W/ ELITE TRAITS.
Why? Competition, size, speed, depth, planning ahead with contracts over the next 2 years. Getting a top 20 talent on my board this late due to a series of early knee injuries. If he checks out medically this is the steal of the draft and woirh the risk.
166) KAHALE WARRING (TE) SDSU
warring.jfif
RJR. 6' 5'', 252#, 9 3/4'' HANDS, 32 3/4'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.67, 10YS - , BP - 19 REPS @ 255, VJ - 36.5'', BJ 122'', 3CONE - 7.21, 20S - 4.25, 60S - 11.72. Raw, inexperienced, uber-athlete who is just learning to play ball. Ideal frame, length, height/weight prospect, physical at POA, blocking technique is raw and in developmental stages, good route tree already, excellent footwork with in/ out breaks , uses body position to shield defender from ball, tremendous movement skills, natural pass catcher with excellent hands, very raw but high ceiling. Will be developing prospect for 1-2 years but worth the investment here. STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT W/ IMPACT TRAITS.
Why? Without HH receiving ability last season, the offense lacked dimension, depth, HH injury history/contract, explosive 2 TE sets.
200) ARMON WATTS (DT) ARK
RSR. 6' 4 1/2'', 300#, 9 5/8'' hands, 33 3/8'' arms, 80 7/8'' wingspan, 40YD - 5.23, 10YS - 1.81, VJ - , BJ - , REPS @ 225, 20S -, 60S-. Armon is an ascending prospect who has improved his game each season. Great size, length, power, and very HOT motor. Uses leverage to hold gap integrity, excellent improved ability to stack/shed, needs to improve drive power to reset LOS, handles doubles well w/ability to split, consistently double-teamed on nearly every pass rep, has developed a push-pull & rip-swim, has tremendous upside as 0-3 tech pass rusher, solid contact balance through trash, seems very coachable as seen by his improvement. Armon needs to be developed in both the weight room and technique with his hands/body positioning/PR plan. BU/ROTATIONAL - STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT.
Why? Replace one 6th round Arkansas prospect with a new one. Depth, his size/length/strength, rotation, big upside, already a stout run defender with a big upside as an interior disruptor/pass rusher.
242) ALEXANDER MATTISON (RB) BSU
JR. 5' 10 1/2'', 221#, 9 1/8'' HANDS, 31'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.67, 10YS - 1.51, VJ - 35'', BJ - 127'', 22 REPS @ 225, 3CONE - 7.13, 20S - 4.29, 60S - 11.69. Alex is a versatile big back with power, agility, PP chops, and receiving ability. He runs decisively, solid low pad level, breaks initial contact, tremendous contact balance, burst to get corner (10ys - 1.51), a little wiggle, flexibility allows for 90 degree cuts, runs through arms tackles, delivers jarring contact, excellent vision/instincts, defenders glance off contact, hard/tough/gritty runner, protects the football, good hands, will need to work on PP base and route execution. A 3-down back with power, tremendous vision, 90-degree cutting ability, and receiving skills. STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT.
Why? MGIII injury history/contract, the offense was not as effective when MGIII misses time, believe Alex would be our starting RB in 2020
* Only 5 pics allowed per post so none for Armon or Alex.
Last edited by like54ninjas; Today, 11:33 AM. Reason: PICS ADDEDLast edited by like54ninjas; 04-03-2019, 01:54 PM.My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List
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Nice effing draft. Props, mad props.
What I like: high pick on a top FS, needed. High pick on a pass rush DT, also needed. Also not against that CB, risky but yeah, good spot for it.
No LB, but we did draft two last year, and already added a very good FA, that squad should be better if everybody can stay healthy.Last edited by blueman; 04-03-2019, 05:34 PM.
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Originally posted by blueman View PostNice effing draft. Props, mad props.
What I like: high pick on a top FS, needed. High pick on a pass rush DT, also needed. Also not against that CB, risky but yeah, good spot for it.
No LB, but we did draft two last year, and already added a very good FA, that squad should be better if everybody can stay healthy.
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Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
yeah, nice draft. My only question is whether half those guys would be available.
Which prospects seem dramatically out of round consideration?My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post"FINAL" mock (probably)
28) JUAN THORNHILL (FS) UVA
thornhill 2.jfif
SR. 6', 205#, 8 3/4'' HANDS, 31 1/8'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.42, 10YS - , VJ - 44'', BJ - 141'', 3CONE - , 20S - , 60S - . Juan is a naturally gifted, instinctual, fast, explosive, ballhawk that has CB skills and is relentless. He has great feet, excellent flexibility, loose hips, natural movement skills, uncanny ball separation skills, makes BIG plays in BIG games, played all DB positions (CB/FS/SS), HUGE production - 13 INTs/26 PBUs/208 tackles, tremendous mirror skills, overaggressive at times/susceptible to double moves, eyes always have him near the ball, sees and goes on run fills, takes excellent angles, solid wrap up tackler but not a thumper, hand strikes in press are accurate/forceful, disrupts routes at LOS, can be a half tick off as high safety but has the physical tools so can still make the range - very coachable and will speed up with reps at position. Juan's value as a backend chess piece and our FS is an ideal fit. His range as our FS is from far hash 2 sideline , can cover any WR/RB/TE M2M, coverage disguise/flexibility, enhance Derwin's impact, eliminate explosive plays, and generate TOs. IMPACT STARTER w/ELITE TRAITS
WHY? MONSTER talent, big PON, skillset will make the entire defense better, my #10 prospect
60) RENELL WREN (DT) ASU
wren.jfif
RSR. 6' 4 1/2'', 318#, 10'' HANDS, 33 7/8'' ARMS, 81'' WINGSPAN, 40YD - 5. 1, 10YS - 1.75, VJ - 32'', BJ - 9' 10'', 30 REPS @ 225, 3CONE - 7.65, 20S - 4.53. Big physical explosive beast! Played NT at ASU but fits best as a 3tech and passing situation NT. Very stout against run, + body control thru contact, excellent pad level play, exceptionally strong (still can get stronger), Ideal frame/length/upfield explosion, can be a true backfield disruptor, resets LOS, active hands, hand placements/techniques are non existent -real area of opportunity here, attack plans need to be developed. Renell has the whole package and upside to be a dominant probowl caliber player. Are his work ethic, coachability, and football IQ up to it? I believe so! STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT w/IMPACT TRAITS.
Why? We only have 3 DT on the roster currently. Ascending talent at huge PON, ideal size, move to 3tech with his disruption is an ideal fit for our BOLTS.
91) MAX SCHARPING (OT) NIU
scharping.jfif
RSR. 6'6'', 324#, 9 3/4'' hands, 33 5/8'' arms, 79'' wingspan. Ironman/4 yr starter, played both ROT/LOT w/ a few games at OG, only allowed 2 sacks in 4 years, played best against top competition, short choppy footwork in kickslide allows for easy body adjustments, good hand placement but needs to provide more shock value w/punch, excellent down blocker, easily works combo blocks to 2nd/3rd levels, dominant grip strength - when he gets his hands inside the rep is over, gets movement @ POA after initial stalemate, gets beat inside when his hands are wide to start, good recovery to counters, must improve strength and ability to anchor early in reps, easily makes reach & scoop blocks, patient in pass sets and rarely out of position. Max will need to get into our S&C PROGRAM to maximize his already impressive skillset and ability to anchor bull rushers. STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT W/SOME IMPACT TRAITS.
Why? Tevi's performance last season requires an upgrade while he is still developing, depth, Okung's age/contract/plan ahead.
130) JAMEL DEAN (CB) AUB
dean.jfif
RJR. 6' 1'', 206#, 9 1/8'' HANDS, 31 3/4'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.3, 10YS - , BP - 16 REPS @ 225, VJ - 41'', BJ - 130'', 3CONE - 7.02, 20S - 4.19, 60S - . Jamel is an athletic freak who started out at OSU before being declared medically ineligible due to multi knee surgeries in HS. This lead him to transfer to AUB and during spring 16 had another knee injury requiring surgery. He has been healthy since but must be a big factor in his draft status. Jamel is a long press corner with insane acceleration, length, physicality, and ball separation skills. Extremely physical when in press, solid transition footwork, excellent punch placement which causes route/timing disruption, solid form tackler who relishes run support opportunities, good football IQ in route concept understanding (former HS receiver), fights for ball at highest point, little overconfident in his recovery speed, flexibility limited with hips on tight inside breaking routes, gets too handsy on digs/comeback routes, ability to bait QB with recovery speed/instincts. IMPACT PROSPECT W/ ELITE TRAITS.
Why? Competition, size, speed, depth, planning ahead with contracts over the next 2 years. Getting a top 20 talent on my board this late due to a series of early knee injuries. If he checks out medically this is the steal of the draft and woirh the risk.
166) KAHALE WARRING (TE) SDSU
warring.jfif
RJR. 6' 5'', 252#, 9 3/4'' HANDS, 32 3/4'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.67, 10YS - , BP - 19 REPS @ 255, VJ - 36.5'', BJ 122'', 3CONE - 7.21, 20S - 4.25, 60S - 11.72. Raw, inexperienced, uber-athlete who is just learning to play ball. Ideal frame, length, height/weight prospect, physical at POA, blocking technique is raw and in developmental stages, good route tree already, excellent footwork with in/ out breaks , uses body position to shield defender from ball, tremendous movement skills, natural pass catcher with excellent hands, very raw but high ceiling. Will be developing prospect for 1-2 years but worth the investment here. STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT W/ IMPACT TRAITS.
Why? Without HH receiving ability last season, the offense lacked dimension, depth, HH injury history/contract, explosive 2 TE sets.
200) ARMON WATTS (DT) ARK
RSR. 6' 4 1/2'', 300#, 9 5/8'' hands, 33 3/8'' arms, 80 7/8'' wingspan, 40YD - 5.23, 10YS - 1.81, VJ - , BJ - , REPS @ 225, 20S -, 60S-. Armon is an ascending prospect who has improved his game each season. Great size, length, power, and very HOT motor. Uses leverage to hold gap integrity, excellent improved ability to stack/shed, needs to improve drive power to reset LOS, handles doubles well w/ability to split, consistently double-teamed on nearly every pass rep, has developed a push-pull & rip-swim, has tremendous upside as 0-3 tech pass rusher, solid contact balance through trash, seems very coachable as seen by his improvement. Armon needs to be developed in both the weight room and technique with his hands/body positioning/PR plan. BU/ROTATIONAL - STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT.
Why? Replace one 6th round Arkansas prospect with a new one. Depth, his size/length/strength, rotation, big upside, already a stout run defender with a big upside as an interior disruptor/pass rusher.
242) ALEXANDER MATTISON (RB) BSU
JR. 5' 10 1/2'', 221#, 9 1/8'' HANDS, 31'' ARMS, 40YD - 4.67, 10YS - 1.51, VJ - 35'', BJ - 127'', 22 REPS @ 225, 3CONE - 7.13, 20S - 4.29, 60S - 11.69. Alex is a versatile big back with power, agility, PP chops, and receiving ability. He runs decisively, solid low pad level, breaks initial contact, tremendous contact balance, burst to get corner (10ys - 1.51), a little wiggle, flexibility allows for 90 degree cuts, runs through arms tackles, delivers jarring contact, excellent vision/instincts, defenders glance off contact, hard/tough/gritty runner, protects the football, good hands, will need to work on PP base and route execution. A 3-down back with power, tremendous vision, 90-degree cutting ability, and receiving skills. STARTING CALIBER PROSPECT.
Why? MGIII injury history/contract, the offense was not as effective when MGIII misses time, believe Alex would be our starting RB in 2020
* Only 5 pics allowed per post so none for Armon or Alex.
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View PostJuan Thornhill's coverage versatility should make him one of the draft's most valuable assets
Dec 29, 2018; Charlotte, NC, USA; Virginia Cavaliers safety Juan Thornhill (21) returns an interception in the fourth quarter against the South Carolina Gamecocks in the 2018 Belk Bowl at Bank of America Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Jeremy Brevard-USA TODAY Sports
Coverage versatility is a hot commodity in today's NFL and Virginia's Juan Thornhill has been a common name in NFL circles when referring to the 2019 NFL Draft in recent weeks.
A former cornerback, Thornhill found a home at safety in 2018, posting an 89.3 overall grade that ranks third among FBS safeties in the draft class. He'd already been making great strides at cornerback, after grading at only 64.3 with a passer rating allowed of 103.5 back in 2016, Thornhill improved to grade at 81.0 overall in 2017 to go with a passer rating of 69.3 into his coverage.
Even with the improvement, a move to safety in 2018 may have been just what Thornhill needed in order to improve his draft stock. He's been fantastic in that role, grading at 91.2 at all safety positions, fifth-best in the draft class over the last three years. When isolating to just free safety, Thornhill grades at 90.6, fourth-best in the class during that time, albeit on a small sample size of only 178 snaps. Still, he's shown an excellent feel for playing deep zone, combining the ability to quickly diagnose plays with the athleticism to break on the ball and make plays at the catch point.
On the other hand, Thornhill's numbers at cornerback are pedestrian when compared to the rest of the class. Even with the 2017 improvement, his 78.2 overall grade ranks just 72nd in the class over the last three years and his coverage grade of 70.1 ranks 139th. He certainly had a few flash plays when playing outside, but overall, Thornhill has looked more comfortable as a deep safety, both in coverage and in the run game where he's been excellent.
Thornhill's coverage numbers have been sensational when lined up at safety. Despite a small sample size, his coverage ability does shine through.
Opponents have completed only 2-of-16 attempts into Thornhill's primary coverage at safety and he's come away with four interceptions while forcing incompletions on seven of the 16 targets.
Still, NFL teams may look at Thornhill's 6-foot, 205-pound frame and project him at cornerback where his size and athleticism are intriguing for the most valuable position on the defense. He had an excellent showing at the NFL Combine, running a 4.42 40-yard dash while putting up some of the best all-time numbers in both the vertical jump (44 inches) and the broad jump (141 inches). The jumps were reminiscent of Dallas Cowboys CB Byron Jones, who set records with a 44.5-inch vertical and a 147-inch broad, all while dominating the agility drills and running a reported 4.36 40 at his pro day.
While Jones played cornerback in college, he started his career as a safety and in the slot for Dallas, before successfully transitioning outside for the Cowboys last year and performing as one of the league's best corners. That may have a few teams looking at Thornhill's similar size and athletic profile to give him a shot at cornerback before moving back to safety as a worst-case scenario.
Either way, Thornhill's progression at Virginia makes him one of the draft's most valuable assets in the secondary and he should have his name called by Day 2 at the latest come draft weekend.Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
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Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
Juan is a beast!
Bottom line, love the mock.Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB
Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT
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I like that draft. I'd have done things a bit different but overall it's good.
I'm still apprehensive about Dean but in the 4th, not a huge gamble. He has been healthy for 2 seasons now. I like Warring but he is a big project and doubt he contributes this year but for the future I like it.
I don't think ALL those guys are starting caliber players as you list them or they wouldn't be there in those rounds lol. Warring is never going to beat out Henry for example.
I like Mattison but there are some others I like more but it's still a good pick if the others are gone.
That is your final already? No changes coming?Last edited by Boltjolt; 04-04-2019, 08:19 AM.
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