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  • Steve
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    Again, I don't disagree, but we may not have the chance to add those positions at the top of the draft. 27 picks before us. We have to have a way in mind in to continue to upgrade the roster even if the OL we want is not there.

    DL will be the key, even if we don't take them. Teams could go for them first because that is where the talent and need are, or teams might prioritize the other positions under the assumption there is enough depth to get one later.

    Bellichick seems to get the most out of his players. Even the malcontents he signs. Does he have a magic wand or is he some sort of ninja who threatens them to play well or else? Don't know why he can do it and we can't. Though Hayward has played better for us than he did in Green Bay.
    The Pats and Broncos (a few years ago) got the most out of almost everyone because they could set high expectations and everyone knew it was "produce" or else. Both did pretty well at keeping the expectations reasonable. Now that we are a better team, I think we can do the same. Lynn has done a great job of rebuilding the culture and seems like things are going in the right direction. Adding players to the OL (or other spots), even if they are not top guys, is still a good idea. It lets every player know they have to continue to improve "or else". If you have a culture like that, and really have players compete, then everyone has to put out their best. FA have to produce, or they will be sent packing. Top draft pick know they have to. And the guys at the low end of the roster put in their very best efforts because they know they have a real chance to make it. It is surprising how many former NFL players who mention that teams don't give everyone a chance. They pay lip service, but you want to get the best out of everyone (which is the whole point of a team) then everyone needs their fair chance to contribute.

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    • beachcomber
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      note to self....

      The Falcons were in the bottom five in run defense last season.
      (may be a good idea to stay clear of Dre'Mont Jones, and no matter how tempting @28, and....

      agree that Tennessee/Mariota would benefit by a TE, albeit think Fant is a better fit w/Marcus, and.... like Devin Bush for Pittsburgh, albeit think 'tis more their style to wait 'til round two for their LB of choice, and....

      agree that the Chargers could, should, would be well served to be thinking QB, and wouldn't be surprised to see KC go Bryce Love if and when opportunity knocked, and ditto for NE thinking/going QB early.
      5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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      • blueman
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        I like that last year TT went D hard in the draft, I think it was made the difference in getting to the playoffs, the changes were good. We need another draft like that.

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        • Coachmarkos
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          When you're picking 28th, take the best person available. I don't care what position.
          "...of course that's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

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          • Boltjolt
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            Kyler Murray chooses Football.
            Must have been told he will be a top 10 pick. We'll see how a very short QB who was said to only weigh 183 lbs during the season does in this league.
            Last edited by Boltjolt; 02-11-2019, 04:32 PM.

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              • like54ninjas
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                Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
                Kyler Murray chooses Football. Must been told he will be a top 10 pick. We'll see how a very short QB who was said to only weigh 183 lbs during the season does in this league.
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                • Formula 21
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                  2019 NFL Mock Draft: Giants trade up for QB, Steelers land top WR to replace Antonio Brown

                  The Giants aren't going to pass on a franchise quarterback in back-to-back drafts


                  The NFL season is officially over, which means it's now draft season. Quarterbacks remain the primary focus, even if this class isn't particularly deep. Still, that doesn't mean teams won't fall in love with players -- and that explains why we have John Elway and the Broncos going all-in on Missouri's Drew Lock.
                  In other mock-draft news, two other quarterbacks go in Round 1, Nick Bosa returns to the top spot and Rashan Gary continues to make his case as one of the athletic defensive linemen in a group filled with them. Of note, we discussed all this on Monday's episode of The Pick Six Podcast, which you can stream below or (highly recommended) download to your favorite podcast-listening device.



                  Alright, let's get to all the picks.

                  1 Cardinals
                  Nick Bosa, DE, Ohio State
                  On a team chock full of holes, edge rusher isn't at the top of the to-do list. That said, it's hard to pass on a talent like Bosa, who can take over games. There isn't an offensive linemen worth taking this high and the Cardinals find themselves in full-on rebuild mode less than a year after hiring Steve Wilks and drafting Josh Rosen in the first round.
                  2 49ers
                  Josh Allen, EDGE, Kentucky
                  Is Josh Allen the best pass rusher in the draft? That will be decided in the coming weeks and months, but no one did more for their draft stock than Allen, who returned to Kentucky for his senior season and went off. After seven sacks and 10.5 tackles for loss in 2017, Allen gained 10-15 pounds of muscle and put up 14 sacks and 18.5 tackles for loss and was pretty much unblockable. The 49ers need an edge rusher and Allen is it.
                  3 Giants
                  Mock trade with Jets
                  Dwayne Haskins, QB, Ohio State
                  Eli Manning may be returning in 2019 but the Giants aren't passing on a franchise quarterback two years in a row, which is why they'll guarantee they get Haskins, even if that means moving up three spots. He attempted only 40 passes before last season but the Ohio State standout remains out top quarterback.
                  4 Raiders
                  Rashan Gary, DL, Michigan
                  Gary didn't live up to expectations at Michigan but part of that can be blamed on him playing out of position. Is he an edge rusher? Is he better inside? People close to him say he is, without a doubt, an edge rusher. The Raiders have to solidify the position after trading Khalil Mack before the season and releasing Bruce Irvin midway through 2018.
                  5 Buccaneers
                  Quinnen Williams, DL, Alabama
                  Quinnen Williams could end up being the best player in this draft class. He was dominant last season for Alabama after sitting behind Da'Ron Payne (a Redskins first-rounder last spring) in 2017. The Bucs could be moving on from Gerald McCoy and Williams would be an obvious choice to replace him in the lineup.
                  6 Jets
                  Mock trade with Giants
                  Jonah Williams, OT, Alabama
                  Are Williams' arms long enough to play tackle in the NFL? Yes. It's hard to believe this has become a talking point after Williams dominated the 2018 season. He'll be a starter for the next decade, which is great news for second-year quarterback Sam Darnold.
                  7 Jaguars
                  Brian Burns, EDGE, Florida State
                  At 235-240 pounds, the concern is whether Burns strong enough to play the position at the next level, but Burns isn't just a speed rusher; he's also strong, and has the frame to get stronger.
                  8 Lions
                  Byron Murphy, CB, Washington
                  The Lions' secondary ranked 31st in pass defense, according to Football Outsiders, and Murphy is our top cornerback in this class.
                  9 Bills
                  Ed Oliver, DT, Houston
                  The Bills desperately need help on the offensive side of the ball but they'll certainly settle for Ed Oliver, who could very well be the second-best player in the draft. With 35-year-old Kyle Williams now retired, Oliver makes sense here.
                  10 Broncos
                  Drew Lock, QB, Missouri
                  The worst kept secret at the Senior Bowl was that Broncos GM John Elway fell in love with Lock, who reminds us of Jay Cutler. He has the best arm in the draft and improved as he went through his senior season. Case Keenum has a year left on his deal but he's coming off an uneven 2018 campaign.
                  11 Bengals
                  Jawaan Taylor, OT, Florida
                  Andy Dalton and the Bengals' offense is at its best when he has time to throw. New coach Zac Taylor can make things easy by solidifying an offensive line that wasn't even replacement-level last season. Taylor is a monster in the run game and is an adept pass blocker despite his 330-pound frame.
                  12 Packers
                  Clelin Ferrell, DE, Clemson
                  Ferrell was one of the stars of the best defensive line in college football, and he finished his junior season with 11.5 sacks and 20 tackles for loss. There may be questions about his flexibility compared to the other first-round pass rushers but there's no denying his Clemson production. In fact, on first downs during the 2018 season, Ferrell ranked among the top 10 players in the country in sacks (5), hurries (12), hits (10), knockdowns (5) and pressures (17).
                  13 Dolphins
                  Kyler Murray, QB, Oklahoma
                  The Dolphins have yet to officially move on from Ryan Tannehill but general manager Chris Grier said last week that the team may "fall in love" with a quarterback during the pre-draft process. Murray is that guy. There will always be questions about his size but given the way the game has changed over the last five years, it's reasonable to think he can flourish in the league.
                  14 Falcons
                  Jeffery Simmons, DT, Mississippi State
                  Grady Jarrett was a beast last season but he's headed for free agency. Simmons was dominant in 2018, and was behind only Quinnen Williams and Ed Oliver in defensive tackle rankings.
                  15 Redskins
                  Daniel Jones, QB, Duke
                  The Redskins have needs at every offensive skill position but with Alex Smith still recovering from a broken leg and backup Colt McCoy with a year left on his deal, addressing depth at quarterback is paramount. Jones is a David Cutcliffe product, and he looks the part. There are questions about his accuracy but he played behind a suspect offensive line at Duke and didn't have the downfield playmakers of, say, Haskins, Lock and Murray.
                  16 Panthers
                  Montez Sweat, EDGE, Mississippi State
                  Mario Addison is 31 and has just one year left on his deal and Julius Peppers has already retired. Sweat, who is coming off a strong senior season, alleviated any concerns about his ability to bend around the edge during a strong Senior Bowl week last month.
                  17 Browns
                  Greedy Williams, CB, LSU
                  The Browns could be a player or two from being considered a legit playoff contender next season and adding Williams, the most athletic cornerback in this class, solidifies that notion.
                  18 Vikings
                  Devin White, LB, LSU
                  The offensive line is a huge need but the middle of the Vikings' defense was a liability last season. White, the most athletic linebacker in this draft class, solves that problem.
                  19 Titans
                  T.J. Hockenson, TE, Iowa
                  Delanie Walker is 34 years old and suffered an ankle injury in Week 1 that ended his season. 2017 third-round pick Jonnu Smith finished with 20 receptions and should improve in Year 3 but adding the best tight end in a stacked draft class could be hard to pass up for an offense in desperate need of playmakers.
                  20 Steelers
                  D.K. Metcalf, WR, Ole Miss
                  Yes, the Steelers need help at linebacker, cornerback and edge rusher but can they pass up the best wideout in this draft class, especially since it looks like Antonio Brown has played his last down for the Steelers?
                  21 Seahawks
                  Taylor Rapp, S, Washingon
                  It will be impossible to replace Earl Thomas with one person but Rapp might be the most well rounded safety in this class. He's a sure tackler, an adept blitzer and is always around the ball.
                  22 Ravens
                  Jachai Polite, EDGE, Florida
                  Terrell Suggs and Za'Darius Smith are free agents and Polite has the type of freakish athleticism that would fit right in with the Ravens' style of play. Polite is coming off a breakout season for the Gators where he had 11 sacks and 19.5 tackles for loss.
                  23 Texans
                  Dalton Risner, OL, Kansas St.
                  Risner had a fantastic week at the Senior Bowl last month and while he's destined to kick inside in the NFL -- perhaps even to center -- he's shown throughout his college career that he's a very good tackle too. Either way, the Texans have to do a better job of protecting Deshaun Watson and Risner checks all the boxes.
                  24 Raiders
                  From Chicago
                  Devin Bush, LB, Michigan
                  The Raiders were a mess on both sides of the ball last season and Bush, a thumper who also has sideline-to-sideline speed, would bolster the middle of the defense.
                  25 Eagles
                  Gerald Willis, DT, Miami
                  Willis didn't attend the Senior Bowl but he remains one of the best defensive tackles in a ridiculously deep class of them. His ability to wreak havoc in the backfield will upgrade an Eagles unit that ranked 26th in pressuring the quarterback.
                  26 Colts
                  Kelvin Harmon, WR, N.C. State
                  A new-and-improved Andrew Luck, an offensive line that allowed just 18 sacks during the regular season, and now another downfield playmaker to pair with T.Y. Hilton and Eric Ebron. Harmon can beat you at every level and despite his size he regularly runs away from defenders in one-on-one situations.
                  27 Raiders
                  From Dallas
                  Lonnie Johnson, Jr., CB, Kentucky
                  He's tall, fast and physical, but he's also still very raw. That said, he had a strong Senior Bowl week and some scouts think he could end up being a first-round pick. Johnson is rough around the edges but he has all the tools to be special.
                  28 Chargers
                  Andre Dillard, OT, Washington State
                  Dillard had a strong Senior Bowl week and scouts love his footwork. And since Philip Rivers might just play forever, the Chargers will need to protect him.
                  29 Chiefs
                  Deandre Baker, CB, Georgia
                  Baker may not be the athlete that Greedy Williams or Byron Murphy is, but he put up better college numbers. He shows good long speed, smooth hips, and the ability to change direction. He was rarely targeted during his senior season in part because his mirroring technique was superb.
                  30 Packers
                  From New Orleans
                  Nasir Adderley, S, Delaware
                  Adderley may be an FCS guy but he looked the part at the Senior Bowl, punctuating his week with an interception in the game. The biggest question might be his size -- is he big enough to play safety over the course of an NFL season? -- because every other aspect of his game has scouts excited.
                  31 Rams
                  Deionte Thompson, S, Alabama
                  The Rams need help in the secondary and Thompson has the physical skills to be special. His production slipped at the end of the season -- he was beat several times in the national title game against Clemson -- but he remains one of the best safeties in this draft and would upgrade L.A.'s secondary.
                  32 Patriots
                  Noah Fant, TE, Iowa
                  Rob Gronkowski says he'll take a few weeks to decide his future but he had just 47 catches and three touchdowns in 2018 and given that he's due $9 million next season, it's reasonable to think the Pats will move on from him. Fant is the second-best tight end on his Iowa team and the most athletic tight end in this class.
                  Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                  The Wasted Decade is done.
                  Build Back Better.

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                  • Formula 21
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                    Dexter Lawrence and Tillery have both fallen out of the 1st in this mock. And there's a few OTs left for the Bolts to pick from. I like it.

                    The 1st is for adding talent in the passing game.
                    Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                    The Wasted Decade is done.
                    Build Back Better.

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                    • Panamamike
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                      Yep. 1 big football contract and back to baseball.

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                      • Boltjolt
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                        I don't care how well he does after he gets drafted because we arent drafting him.
                        Im not expecting him to be the guy be was in college and he is small. He runs in the NFL like he does in college he will be hurt.

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          Ex Florida st QB Ken Dorsey was undefeated in college and high school too lol.
                          Murray has tools, he just doesn't have size. We'll see how much that matters. It will play a part.
                          He runs a lot too so his pocket presence will need work.
                          Last edited by Boltjolt; 02-11-2019, 04:35 PM.

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