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  • wu-dai clan
    Smooth Operation
    • May 2017
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    Originally posted by jamrock View Post

    He has the Chargers at #10 taking the Oregon QB.

    and, this will make wu-dai puke, the patriots taking Wirfs at #30
    Bless his heart.
    McShay makes me want to vomit convulsively.
    We do not play modern football.

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    • like54ninjas
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      • Oct 2017
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      Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

      There is also talk that Andrew Thomas is unrefined.

      Jedrick Wills is rising too late.

      I'll let you take the heat for not going Oline @ ~ #9.

      :runaway:
      D. Brown, A. Thomas, Isaiah Simmons are my cluster currently.

      I do not see any real talent, fundamentals, technique , or production difference with Wirfs, Niang, Durant.
      My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

      MikeDub
      K9
      Nasir
      Tillery
      Parham
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      • beachcomber
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        • Jan 2019
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        RT Tristan Wirfs * run blocker, meanasty, good get off, feet without the quickness, trouble w/outside speed, upside w/skill set to become solid in pass pro, physical/strong, hoss/mauler, doesn’t lose outside edge often, gets help from TE @times, athletic freak, wrestler, explosive, may return to school, engulfs defenders, bulldozer, has some Cody Ford to his game, top ten talent, stout, Tyron Smith mention/compare

        LT Lucas Niang * projection/developmental prospect, some funk to his technique, needs technical development/refinement, too upright, poor footwork, leads to off balance (pass) sets, NFL starter, scrapper that can anchor, more effort than natural power, third round

        RT Yasir Durant * susceptible to inside counters, short yardage mauler, upside

        have stopped taking notes, albeit am impressed that you are sticking w/your guys Ninja.... am also willing to give you the benefit of the doubt w/your Hurts day 3 prognostication (keep 'em coming

        and not wishing to trade up for an OT, altho can appreciate the sentiment.



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        • like54ninjas
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          Originally posted by beachcomber View Post
          RT Tristan Wirfs * run blocker, meanasty, good get off, feet without the quickness, trouble w/outside speed, upside w/skill set to become solid in pass pro, physical/strong, hoss/mauler, doesn’t lose outside edge often, gets help from TE @times, athletic freak, wrestler, explosive, may return to school, engulfs defenders, bulldozer, has some Cody Ford to his game, top ten talent, stout, Tyron Smith mention/compare

          LT Lucas Niang * projection/developmental prospect, some funk to his technique, needs technical development/refinement, too upright, poor footwork, leads to off balance (pass) sets, NFL starter, scrapper that can anchor, more effort than natural power, third round

          RT Yasir Durant * susceptible to inside counters, short yardage mauler, upside

          have stopped taking notes, albeit am impressed that you are sticking w/your guys Ninja.... am also willing to give you the benefit of the doubt w/your Hurts day 3 prognostication (keep 'em coming

          and not wishing to trade up for an OT, altho can appreciate the sentiment.


          Whoever you quoted about Niang sees things I do not. He has given up under 45 total pressures and 1 sack in his 4 year playing (3 starting) college career. Sack coming in year uno. Handled both Chase Young and Nick Bosa for a total of 1 pressure and 0 sacks in 2018. Niang did have a hip surgery this season so injury must be taken into account.

          Yasir does have issues with quick inside moves and inside spin counter to a initial burst upfield rush. His inside hand placement/position and right foot down step need to be developed. Which returning SEC OT had the fewest pressures in 2018? Not A. Thomas (11) but Yasir Durant (8).

          All 3 have solid anchors, good to great run blockers, possess length/ girth/ power. Yasir is the only 1 of the 3 that has experience @LOT (3 years).
          Last edited by like54ninjas; 12-17-2019, 12:55 PM. Reason: Added info
          My 2021 Adopt-A-Bolt List

          MikeDub
          K9
          Nasir
          Tillery
          Parham
          Reed

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          • Silversurfer
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            • Apr 2019
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            Originally posted by jamrock View Post

            I don’t want Rivers teaching anybody to change plays the way he does or even what he sees because it has become pretty clear that he doesn’t understand what he sees anymore.

            My thoughts exactly! What is he going to teach how to change from a run blitz to a pass? Green 80 Green 80 set hut....Rivers strikes me as someone who doesnt share information anyway when it comes to mentoring but I could be wrong.

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            • Lone Bolt
              Oline-Tip of the Spear...
              • Feb 2019
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              Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

              D. Brown, A. Thomas, Isaiah Simmons are my cluster currently.

              I do not see any real talent, fundamentals, technique , or production difference with Wirfs, Niang, Durant.
              I would trust you have seen more of Wirfs and the others than I...but if what you say is true, no reason to pick a tackle till the second, Cuz Thomas will be gone...and there isn't enough difference in the next tier to justify a reach....one of those guys will be there in the second.

              Adopted Bolt: Kimani Vidal RB

              Final prediction: Latham OT, Colson LB, Sainristil CB,Rice WR, Zinter OG, Nourzad OC, MacLachlan TE, Vidal RB, Lovett DT

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              • blueman
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                • Jun 2013
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                Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                Hurts will still be there on day 3
                Wow, so no improvement over Stick then, we shouldn’t bother.

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                • Topcat
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                  • Jan 2019
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                  CBS Sports recent mock has us taking Simmons at #9, with an early run on O-Line. So, CBS agrees with Wood's belief that the top 3 OT's will be gone by the time we pick:

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                  https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/...ayer-in-class/
                  Last edited by Topcat; 12-17-2019, 04:53 PM.

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                  • blueman
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                    Makes sense those OL going off the board so early.

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                    • Topcat
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                      Originally posted by blueman View Post
                      Makes sense those OL going off the board so early.
                      Yep...hope it's not a repeat of the 2013 draft, when the top 3 OT's went early, then TT reached for Fluker at #11...meanwhile, Star and Sheldon Richardson were right there...if the top OT's are gone, draft IDL or possibly that Simmons pick to bolster our LB corps and tackling...then trade back into late round 1 for someone like Leatherneck...though I might consider Biadez at #9...

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                      • Boltjolt
                        Dont let the PBs fool ya
                        • Jun 2013
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                        Originally posted by Silversurfer View Post


                        My thoughts exactly! What is he going to teach how to change from a run blitz to a pass? Green 80 Green 80 set hut....Rivers strikes me as someone who doesnt share information anyway when it comes to mentoring but I could be wrong.
                        Lol, I'd say your dead wrong and have no clue what a QB does at the line.

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                        • Boltnut
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                          • Feb 2019
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                          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                          Wasn’t he signed for $9m? And isn’t it injury protected?
                          Mike Pouncey contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

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