Saints 8.5 Point Favorites Over The Chargers (WK 5 Pre-Game Discussion)

[heywally]

Yea, my whole thing with Herbert is him getting hurt out there with the current setup and his inexperience and the growth thing turning into negative growth, just don't like the setup right now. Still, it's hard to imagine sitting him after what he's done so far.

[JOJAX85]

I'm betting they move this game. Delta is gonna make a soup bowl out N'Awlins... Again.

[SDBORN]

Let's keep losing with Herbert growing. I'd rather see that than Lynn attempting the bottom line.. his job.

I remind all that Taylor is 1-0 due to the Bengals missed field goal in the last seconds.

To think we were that close to going into OT. Who knows maybe Chargers are 0-4 right now like Lynn's early days. Not much has changed.

Why is Lynn still here?

[jox g]

Also that close to being 4-0

[richpjr]

To think we were that close to going into OT. Who knows maybe Chargers are 0-4 right now like Lynn's early days. Not much has changed.

Why is Lynn still here?

He is evidently thought of as "a leader of men" - whatever that means. It surely doesn't equate to success on the field.

[21&500]

Herbert. Is he even starting this week? Love watching him play and the Chargers have not had a QB that looks like this. The problem right now is that in large part because of injuries, this team is very unlikely to make the playoffs. So, do you want to risk the rookies health to gain him some experience this year, which may or may not be good experience the rest of the way?

This oline does not look good. Herbert was deep in the pocket too many times and for too long. He still has too casual of an attitude about NFL defenders (the out of bounds late hit he took because he coasted and didn’t have his alert up long enough; that’s already happened several times this year) and the designed running play where he didn’t slide. Is this coaching staff calling the right plays for him? And of course, he doesn’t have the field awareness yet. Ekeler gone is a big deal. Herbert is pretty quick but those legs are a big target.

Coach might be risking his job by putting TT back in there but I’m on the fence about continuing to start Herbert with the team the way it is right now.

Anyway, no matter who starts at QB this weekend, I don’t see the Chargers keeping this one close in that stadium. I’d use the Saints as part of a two team teaser or ML parlay.

I think there are some valid points and concerns here
I just don’t know if Herbert grows pocket awareness or develops that proper attitude/urgency, while sitting on a bench
I see what you’re seeing, but I also see a big guy who knows how to take sacks safely
I trust Herbert to keep himself safe while learning these nuances, it’s going to take a freak accident or hit to injure him (knock on wood)
generally I don’t believe in that approach, you play a qb to develop him and give him experience and not wrap him up in bubble wrap. It’s part of the risk involved.

regarding bad experience, I think I know what you mean, but again, this falls on the QB.
it’s a tall ask for a rookie qb to play behind a bad Oline and essentially being thrown to the wolves, but it’s okay to ask a lot of your franchise qb.

Imo JH will reflect on his rookie year as the most growth he’s had as a qb.

[21&500]

Just a thought I haven't seen here yet but it’s important that JH performs well on national tv
to start growing that reputation which will hopefully translate to getting future calls on the field
and to a lesser extent, grow the brand, commercial success, yada yada yada

[SDBORN]

Also that close to being 4-0

Almost always close games. Mostly losses.

[Velo]

Through Week 4, Herbert leads the NFL in passing yards thrown for under pressure with 433.

[cmplxgal]

[sonorajim]

Almost always close games. Mostly losses.

Based on pre-game appraisals, we should be 2-2. KC & TB were down as L's. Interesting that we were very competotive in them.
Still 1-3.
One less stupid player mistake in each, we'd be 4-0.
Whatever.
Too many brain farts. Not sure how to make the team stop screwing themselves.
How does Bill do it?

[Boltgang74]

Coaching, plain and simple.