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  • Silversurfer
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    Originally posted by Lyth View Post

    I don't think so. Daboll doesn't seem to make the mistakes that Steichen does. Running with no time left. Burning innovative plays when he doesn't need to. Also, have you ever seen an interview with the guy. He's not exactly motivational. He also doesn't have the amount of experience under great coaches that Daboll has.

    The only hot OC we've hired in 15 years was McCoy. Lynn isn't really an OC and Norv was "hired" because we didn't fire Marty till the middle of Feb and wanted some sort of "continuity" for. 14-2 team.
    The plus about Daboll is that he knows how to make adjustments. 15 different plays out of the I-formation to beat blitzburg was a sight to see. I'm wondering how much say so Steichen had in the playbook knowing Lynn wanted to implement running the ball when ever he could. I'm a true believer of using the personnel you have to the best of their ability that's something Daboll does well I read and he stands by that.

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    • Lyth
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      Originally posted by Fleet View Post
      Yeah i think Daboll never takes the gas off. And his 2nd half counters are great. It shows in the fact they are 5th in 2nd half points scored a game. Bolts 28th. I would say that was always my biggest complaint about our offensive coaches. The fact we never could overcome an opponent's adjustments. We would always come out of the half and nothing would change. Teams just take over. Both sides of the ball. WTF did we do at halftime? Oranges and Gatorade?
      Where most good offenses adjust, even make changes just to confuse the other team, at halftime....our adjustments were usually to turtle up and start trying to burn the clock. Since we did the same most games it was pretty easy to figure out.

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      • Heatmiser
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        Originally posted by Silversurfer View Post

        The plus about Daboll is that he knows how to make adjustments. 15 different plays out of the I-formation to beat blitzburg was a sight to see. I'm wondering how much say so Steichen had in the playbook knowing Lynn wanted to implement running the ball when ever he could. I'm a true believer of using the personnel you have to the best of their ability that's something Daboll does well I read and he stands by that.
        Herbert is a rookie. He was outstanding and may have been smart enough to take on the load of 15 different plays from the I formation. But there is also the risk of overloading him, eroding his confidence and stunting his growth. I agree with what you are saying about being too conservative and that was definitely a Lynn tendency before Herbert, too. But have to be realistic about what Herbert could be expected to take on and at what pace.

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        • jamrock
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          Originally posted by Fleet View Post
          Yeah i think Daboll never takes the gas off. And his 2nd half counters are great. It shows in the fact they are 5th in 2nd half points scored a game. Bolts 28th. I would say that was always my biggest complaint about our offensive coaches. The fact we never could overcome an opponent's adjustments. We would always come out of the half and nothing would change. Teams just take over. Both sides of the ball. WTF did we do at halftime? Oranges and Gatorade?
          Great point and stat Fleet

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          • jamrock
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            Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
            One advantage to Bienemy is that he knows Mahomes strengths and weaknesses. Take away the things Mahomes likes to do and force him into uncomfortable situations.
            We all know his strengths and weaknesses by now. Hi strengths are just better than most teams and his weaknesses are few

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            • Xenos
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              Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
              If the next HC comes in and does not retain Pep Hamilton, he should be fired for stupidity. You don't break up a winning combination.
              I mean we wanted to keep Pagano when McCoy was hired, and then Whiz when Lynn was hired. Maybe we should stop making stipulations to potential head coaches about their staff.

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              • Xenos
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                Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
                Talking heads talking about Garrett to the chargers. ugh!

                I’m calling it right now. They’re interviewing him for a FO position, possibly to replace Telesco. That’s my crazy take at least lol.

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                • Xenos
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                  Originally posted by La Costa Boy View Post

                  You still have to play 14 other games.........
                  Yeah. Great example is Patricia. Managed to beat BB but no one else.

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                  • 21&500
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                    Originally posted by Silversurfer View Post

                    The plus about Daboll is that he knows how to make adjustments. 15 different plays out of the I-formation to beat blitzburg was a sight to see. I'm wondering how much say so Steichen had in the playbook knowing Lynn wanted to implement running the ball when ever he could. I'm a true believer of using the personnel you have to the best of their ability that's something Daboll does well I read and he stands by that.
                    imagine a smart QB like number 10 taking advantage of that.
                    some qbs are stronger in making plays off scripts, but for someone who is already reading defenses
                    having a variety of plays from one formation gives him mind games to play against the D
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                    • sonorajim
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                      Originally posted by electricgold View Post
                      OK, if we are going to regard the Bills OC based on what he does in these games and Josh Allen and make him the #1 choice, shouldn't we based on this logic or could one argue based on what our OC did with Herbert in these games HE should be made the next HC? No?

                      It seems like we may be falling into hire the front of the line hot OC to be our next HC again.
                      Daboll/Allen were #2 PPG, 31.3, Steichen/Herbert #18, 24.0 PPG. LAC far too often lost with double digit 1st half leads. Bills did not.

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                      • like54ninjas
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                        Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                        Daboll/Allen were #2 PPG, 31.3, Steichen/Herbert #18, 24.0 PPG. LAC far too often lost with double digit 1st half leads. Bills did not.
                        Year 3 versus year 1? Not a legitimate comparison.
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                        • sonorajim
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                          Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                          Year 3 versus year 1? Not a legitimate comparison.
                          Ir's the only one we can make re 2020 production. It is what it is.
                          Not the only reason to like Daboll but it's early in the process. If you have a fav, trot him out and tell us about him.

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