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  • TXBolt
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    Gonna miss Johnson. Have always been partial to speed guys. Obviously, the staff saw more effective players in making the cut. Johnson's lack of special teams skills, poor blocking and as L Grossman suggest maybe too many mental mistakes. For all we know he was open down field because of poor/wrong route running. Keeping a guy like McKitty , who assumedly would pass thru waivers, over Johnson speaks volumes.

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    • like54ninjas
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      Originally posted by TXBolt View Post
      Gonna miss Johnson. Have always been partial to speed guys. Obviously, the staff saw more effective players in making the cut. Johnson's lack of special teams skills, poor blocking and as L Grossman suggest maybe too many mental mistakes. For all we know he was open down field because of poor/wrong route running. Keeping a guy like McKitty , who assumedly would pass thru waivers, over Johnson speaks volumes.
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      • Bearded14YourPleasure
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        Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

        Johnson literally did not make it past one team in the waiver claiming process.
        To be fair that means he went to the worst team in football…. They have the first claim because they need the most help. They also released 9 WR yesterday, we had a total of 10 before cuts yesterday.

        Disappointed that we let him go, but him being claimed by the Jags doesn’t really mean anything special.

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        • like54ninjas
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          Originally posted by Bearded14YourPleasure View Post

          To be fair that means he went to the worst team in football…. They have the first claim because they need the most help. They also released 9 WR yesterday, we had a total of 10 before cuts yesterday.

          Disappointed that we let him go, but him being claimed by the Jags doesn’t really mean anything special.
          Jags also have about 6 WR on their PS now.
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          • Bearded14YourPleasure
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            Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

            Jags also have about 6 WR on their PS now.
            Which really makes me wonder if they know what they’re doing, that’s even more of your 53 man roster that’s going to have to run scout team on a weekly basis. For a team that doesn’t even have quality starters in most positions they’re now slowing down development to make space for a lot of failed WRs.

            But they have Tyron Johnson, so obviously smarter than us.

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            • equivocation
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              Looks like Trey Marshall is a ST guy. Good tackler, poor ball skills. Derwin James' backup at FSU.

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              • TexanBeerlover
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                Originally posted by FoutsFan View Post

                Unless you are a RB named Kelley. Then there is no good availability.
                Kinda my point but referring to WR position and players injury history. If Palmer is a 17 game phenomenon pretty sure he’s near the top both in targets and receptions.

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                • Boltjolt
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                  Originally posted by UglyTruth View Post

                  I highly doubt it. Staley himself basically called Pipkins shit in the postgame interview. This is on Telesco, not Staley.

                  You can’t just start blaming the HCs for Telesco’s mistakes. It’s been 3 HCs now since he’s been here. Notice the trend.
                  Coaches decide who makes the team. Not like Pipkins makes a lot if money.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                    I think Staley must also be sending a message: Hotheads and play slackers will not be tolerated...
                    Again, speculation. Who was slacking and being a hothead? Taunting or just giving the opponent the biz isn't a hothead. Rivers did it every week.

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                    • Boltjolt
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                      Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                      Jags also have about 6 WR on their PS now.
                      Pretty weak group too.

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                      • Formula 21
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                        Chargers’ 53-man roster shows a strong commitment to fixing shaky special teams

                        Gavino Borquez
                        Wed, September 1, 2021, 2:04 PM

                        A combination of poor coverage and return skills, bone-headed penalties and kicking woes led to the Chargers having the worst special teams in the NFL last season.
                        The first step to fixing the department came with the hiring of Derius Swinton II, who is entering his 14th season as a special teams coach.
                        While the change in the coaching staff was one thing, the players that make up the 53-man roster shows how a great of an emphasis head coach Brandon Staley and company put on the unit.
                        “We want to elevate the standard of performance,” Staley said. We’re looking for guys to separate and create roles for themselves. We expect them to do things a certain way.”


                        The first act of service was finding a starter kicker, which they did by keeping Tristan Vizcaino over Michael Badgley. Staley highlighted Vizcaino as a player who they believe has “real talent,” lauding his leg strength.
                        The next came when the team established one of their return specialists. Instead of keeping the talented Tyron Johnson, it was K.J. Hill who they decided to roll with as the fifth and final receiver because of his ability to return punts.
                        Keeping guys that they felt would make an impact on the coverage units was also strongly taken in consideration, which is why bubble players like undrafted rookie Amen Ogbongbemiga, Kemon Hall, Tevaughn Campbell and Stephen Anderson made the cut.
                        Like the puzzling decision to move on from Johnson, the Chargers didn’t shy away from letting notable names go that they felt didn’t bring much special teams value. That includes Brandon Facyson, who was released on Wednesday in favor of Trey Marshall and eventually Ryan Smith.
                        The reasoning? Staley called Marshall an “outstanding special teams player.”

                        Los Angeles wants to be a playoff team in 2021, but they need to see improvement in their special teams unit to make that happen. With the staff and players the team boasts, there is hope this department will be much more competent.

                        Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                        The Wasted Decade is done.
                        Build Back Better.

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                        • Formula 21
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                          The 10th db has gotta produce results on teams. I Like it.
                          Last edited by Formula 21; 09-01-2021, 04:35 PM.
                          Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
                          The Wasted Decade is done.
                          Build Back Better.

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