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Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post
That didn’t work too well with Jatavis BrownNow, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
The Wasted Decade is done.
Build Back Better.
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It is way too simplistic to say that the fix for our D is "we need more stoutness." Popper and Staley hit upon a key point.
We are bottom of the barrel in early down TFLs. StaleyD will become successful with more 2nd and Long's and 3rd and Long's.
Other StaleyD factors include the importance of field position, takeways, and sure tackling. ST improvements, Derwin's timely strip-fumble TO recently plus ASJ's picks earlier, and also Kyzir's solid play, come to mind.
We need TFLs up front !!
K-9 ?
Tillery ?
JJones ?
Somebody !!We do not play modern football.
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If you study the data on Staley's defensive philosophy it yields very few tackles for a loss in the running game. Just not designed to do that. The light box, gap and a half, 2 deep shell he uses is predicated on confusing the RB enough to slow him down so the second level can come up and tackle after maybe 2-3 yard run. The DL is supposed to tie up and mess up the blocking scheme so it alters the called play just enough to make the RB think and adjust. It fails if teams can just run directly at you without the confusion/delay. And that to me is what we have been seeing so far. Our DL is not playing the scheme right either because they just physically are not capable or they dont understand it even now. Every now and then you will see a flash where someone like Tillery will actually do it right (he did 3-4 times against Eagles) and it teases you with how effective it could be. But then the flash is gone and we see the other team just running seemingly at will.
So I am curious what he is going to do to tweak or change things to get TFL.
Oh and I love me some Linval Joseph but ranking him in the run game based on tackles is fools gold He has lots of run tackles because other teams run so much. Still impressive for a nose to be making tackles after being doubled every play, but that stat is misleading or as Staley would say, it expresses itself as an illusion.
Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.
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Originally posted by Heatmiser View PostIf you study the data on Staley's defensive philosophy it yields very few tackles for a loss in the running game. Just not designed to do that. The light box, gap and a half, 2 deep shell he uses is predicated on confusing the RB enough to slow him down so the second level can come up and tackle after maybe 2-3 yard run. The DL is supposed to tie up and mess up the blocking scheme so it alters the called play just enough to make the RB think and adjust. It fails if teams can just run directly at you without the confusion/delay. And that to me is what we have been seeing so far. Our DL is not playing the scheme right either because they just physically are not capable or they dont understand it even now. Every now and then you will see a flash where someone like Tillery will actually do it right (he did 3-4 times against Eagles) and it teases you with how effective it could be. But then the flash is gone and we see the other team just running seemingly at will.
So I am curious what he is going to do to tweak or change things to get TFL.
Oh and I love me some Linval Joseph but ranking him in the run game based on tackles is fools gold He has lots of run tackles because other teams run so much. Still impressive for a nose to be making tackles after being doubled every play, but that stat is misleading or as Staley would say, it expresses itself as an illusion.
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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View PostIt is way too simplistic to say that the fix for our D is "we need more stoutness." Popper and Staley hit upon a key point.
We are bottom of the barrel in early down TFLs. StaleyD will become successful with more 2nd and Long's and 3rd and Long's.
Other StaleyD factors include the importance of field position, takeways, and sure tackling. ST improvements, Derwin's timely strip-fumble TO recently plus ASJ's picks earlier, and also Kyzir's solid play, come to mind.
We need TFLs up front !!
K-9 ?
Tillery ?
JJones ?
Somebody !!
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Originally posted by jamrock View Post
Every D is better in 2nd and long and 3rd and long or if they get TFL on 1st. Don’t be fooled by these platitudes. Staley, what are you doing to increase the chances of TFL on early downs because right now teams are getting positive yards on the ground consistently
We rank at the bottom.
TFLs come from EDGE, 3Techs, blitzing LBs/DBs.
I am simply pointing out that "stuffing the run" is not StaleyD. It is not about yardage allowed. It is about points allowed.
More consistency from Tillery.
More presence from JJones.
Emergence of K-9.
That kinda stuff will improve overall results.
We do not play modern football.
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Towards LTs last games with the Chargers, I got the sense that defensive coordinators would scheme to not necessarily stop LT but rather to stop it from translating into points
they recognized LT would get his rush and pass yards.
I think Staley is of the same mindset and if so I'm on board
Let em rush for 200 plus yard and score 13 points hahaP1. Block Destruction
P2. Shocking Effort
P3. Ball Disruption
P4. Obnoxious Communication
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Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
It is basic analytics.
We rank at the bottom.
TFLs come from EDGE, 3Techs, blitzing LBs/DBs.
I am simply pointing out that "stuffing the run" is not StaleyD. It is not about yardage allowed. It is about points allowed.
More consistency from Tillery.
More presence from JJones.
Emergence of K-9.
That kinda stuff will improve overall results.
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