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  • like54ninjas
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

    Javonte creepin' into Rd1.
    Greg Cosell loves him.
    You jumping on him @ #45, eh ?
    Think he is the first RB off the board.
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    • Leslie Grossman
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      I would take him or Harris at 45 but would not give him Ekeler money after the rookie deal, draft another one then:cheers:

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

        Still need a OL. Zeke wasn't so good with his patch work OL last season. I do agree we need a good RB.
        I am fixing OL this year plus CB, Edge and IDL in the draft
        Maybe in Round 6 I would take RB - but certainly not in Rounds 1-5

        next year - Chargers can focus on RB. There will also be veterans released for the minimum. Just not a priority.

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        • Boltjolt
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          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

          I am fixing OL this year plus CB, Edge and IDL in the draft
          Maybe in Round 6 I would take RB - but certainly not in Rounds 1-5

          next year - Chargers can focus on RB. There will also be veterans released for the minimum. Just not a priority.
          We can fix those things whether we draft a RB in rounds 2-5 or not. I personally dont like our RB situation. If you think we are going to fix ALL that thru the draft i think you are a little bit misguided. Some FA's will need to be signed.

          We arent going to start three rookies on the OL. Not sure we even need a IDL but sure BPA comes into play...for any possition asside for QB.

          Cant be closed minded to anything. Again, need to get thru FA'cy before saying this is what we need to draft. There will be vets released for most all possitions.

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          • gzubeck
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            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            We can fix those things whether we draft a RB in rounds 2-5 or not. I personally dont like our RB situation. If you think we are going to fix ALL that thru the draft i think you are a little bit misguided. Some FA's will need to be signed.

            We arent going to start three rookies on the OL. Not sure we even need a IDL but sure BPA comes into play...for any possition asside for QB.

            Cant be closed minded to anything. Again, need to get thru FA'cy before saying this is what we need to draft. There will be vets released for most all possitions.
            There might be games where vets go down with injuries and you have have to play rookies. Hopefully this doesn't happen until well into the season. We are going to have to sign vets and also draft.
            Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

            "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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            • Bolt4Knob
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              Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

              We can fix those things whether we draft a RB in rounds 2-5 or not. I personally dont like our RB situation. If you think we are going to fix ALL that thru the draft i think you are a little bit misguided. Some FA's will need to be signed.

              We arent going to start three rookies on the OL. Not sure we even need a IDL but sure BPA comes into play...for any possition asside for QB.

              Cant be closed minded to anything. Again, need to get thru FA'cy before saying this is what we need to draft. There will be vets released for most all possitions.
              I know Telesco will have to use free agency to help augment the roster. And combined with the draft. I am just not wasting a pick before R5 - if I were Telesco - on anything but filling needs. RB is a luxury. DL, CB and OL are not luxuries.

              RB is a wasted damn pick if they do it again.

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              • like54ninjas
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                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                I know Telesco will have to use free agency to help augment the roster. And combined with the draft. I am just not wasting a pick before R5 - if I were Telesco - on anything but filling needs. RB is a luxury. DL, CB and OL are not luxuries.

                RB is a wasted damn pick if they do it again.
                What if J. Williams, T. Etienne, R. Stevenson, N. Harris are available in round 3/4? Not worth it? My board says different.

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                • Boltjolt
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                  Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                  I know Telesco will have to use free agency to help augment the roster. And combined with the draft. I am just not wasting a pick before R5 - if I were Telesco - on anything but filling needs. RB is a luxury. DL, CB and OL are not luxuries.

                  RB is a wasted damn pick if they do it again.
                  Ok, everybody has their opinion and I dont feel this way but ill agree to disagree.
                  Last edited by Boltjolt; 02-28-2021, 02:29 PM.

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                  • Boltjolt
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                    Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                    What if J. Williams, T. Etienne, R. Stevenson, N. Harris are available in round 3/4? Not worth it? My board says different.
                    Its a go for me

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                    • Bolt4Knob
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                      Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                      What if J. Williams, T. Etienne, R. Stevenson, N. Harris are available in round 3/4? Not worth it? My board says different.
                      I am on record: OL, Edge, CB, IDL and OL with the first five picks

                      Not sure - maybe there is a value pick in there that might make sense but in your scenario - what if Kyle Pitts is a value pick in R1 and than a RB in R3 - very good value - but at what point are you not upgrading the OL, Front 7 and CB

                      Linval Jospeh, Casey Hayward, Chris Harris, Justin Jones , Nwosu and obstensibly, Bryan Bulaga are free agents after this year. Plus, there is the need for a couple young OL. Now, if say Jones and Hayward are released and guys like say Dalvin Tomlinson and a CB in the 26-28 range are signed, that might limit the need for DL and CB.

                      So maybe my statement was too definitive But for me - the needs are obvious

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                      • Boltjolt
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                        Bulaga isn't a free agent after this season. And i see no reason why Jones would be released.


                        And RB is a need too. TE really is not as I'm pretty certain Henry will be a priority. Til he isn't signed, it's not a need imo.

                        But once again we will know for certain after FA'cy so it's tough to say what we should draft at this point til we know what we need afterwards.

                        Sometimes a value player falls like Keenan did. Pitts isn't a value in round one at #13 like those RBs would be in rounds 3-4.
                        Last edited by Boltjolt; 02-28-2021, 04:53 PM.

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                        • like54ninjas
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                          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                          I am on record: OL, Edge, CB, IDL and OL with the first five picks

                          Not sure - maybe there is a value pick in there that might make sense but in your scenario - what if Kyle Pitts is a value pick in R1 and than a RB in R3 - very good value - but at what point are you not upgrading the OL, Front 7 and CB

                          Linval Jospeh, Casey Hayward, Chris Harris, Justin Jones , Nwosu and obstensibly, Bryan Bulaga are free agents after this year. Plus, there is the need for a couple young OL. Now, if say Jones and Hayward are released and guys like say Dalvin Tomlinson and a CB in the 26-28 range are signed, that might limit the need for DL and CB.

                          So maybe my statement was too definitive But for me - the needs are obvious
                          Pitts cannot be a value pick @#13. He is a top 15 guy. That is a dumb statement.

                          I referenced 2- first round RBs (1-top 15), 1 - second round, 1 - 2nd/3rd round prospects available with our picks in the 3rd or 4th round. Value, PON, and BPA possible.

                          Yes OL, CB, Edge are bigger PONs for me as well but don’t discount value of much higher ranked prospects. Over drafting will rarely ever work out.
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