Coach Staley Discussion - Fired

[Caslon]

One thing about Staley thus far and remains to be seen: Staley isn’t exactly a proven culture builder when compared to the likes of Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Bill Bellichik or even perhaps a Sean Peyton. It remains to be seen if he’s any more than a wunderkind hire at this point.

[Whydachargers?]

One thing about Staley thus far and remains to be seen: Staley isn’t exactly a proven culture builder when compared to the likes of Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Bill Bellichik or even perhaps a Sean Peyton. It remains to be seen if he’s any more than a wunderkind hire at this point.

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[ChargersPowderBlue]

One thing about Staley thus far and remains to be seen: Staley isn’t exactly a proven culture builder when compared to the likes of Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Bill Bellichik or even perhaps a Sean Peyton. It remains to be seen if he’s any more than a wunderkind hire at this point.

All those coaches have had their struggles too. Staley is better than lame ass Anthony Lynn who didn't know what he was doing so much of the time. Staley has had to gut out the mess left behind by Lynn.

[sonorajim]

One thing about Staley thus far and remains to be seen: Staley isn’t exactly a proven culture builder when compared to the likes of Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Bill Bellichik or even perhaps a Sean Peyton. It remains to be seen if he’s any more than a wunderkind hire at this point.

From all I've seen and heard, the 2023 Chargers are on fire to kick some NFL ass. A band of brothers who are all about making their team better.
The mike'd up and player interviews are good, Moore and DA are awesome.
Comparing Staley to mega year and multi SB vets seems a little premature starting his 3rd year.

[CanadianBoltFan]

From all I've seen and heard, the 2023 Chargers are on fire to kick some NFL ass. A band of brothers who are all about making their team better.
The mike'd up and player interviews are good, Moore and DA are awesome.
Comparing Staley to mega year and multi SB vets seems a little premature starting his 3rd year.

Staley's record in his first 2 seasons is better than some pretty serious coaches including BB.

Personally one thing he has done is begun to create a good culture here. The players love being Chargers, love being here and all love playing for Staley.

Game management and defense need to improve

[sonorajim]

Staley's record in his first 2 seasons is better than some pretty serious coaches including BB.

Personally one thing he has done is begun to create a good culture here. The players love being Chargers, love being here and all love playing for Staley.

Game management and defense need to improve

Moore helps a lot. not just O but a great sounding board for D concepts and vice versa
D (and O) is improved from last year in personnel and coaching. It looks obvious to me but I can't prove anything.
Watch the Mia game and let's talk again.

[jamrock]

All those coaches have had their struggles too. Staley is better than lame ass Anthony Lynn who didn't know what he was doing so much of the time. Staley has had to gut out the mess left behind by Lynn.

And yet Anthony Lynn had a better record than Staley in his first 2 years and a playoff win.

[dmac_bolt]

One thing about Staley thus far and remains to be seen: Staley isn’t exactly a proven culture builder when compared to the likes of Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Bill Bellichik or even perhaps a Sean Peyton. It remains to be seen if he’s any more than a wunderkind hire at this point.

Wunderkind is a great attribute, Tomlin and Belly will both miss the playoffs AGAIN, great culture there.

wun·der·kind
/ˈwo͝ondərˌkind/

noun

1. a person who achieves great success when relatively young.
   "the economics wunderkind who was a tenured professor at 29"

[sonorajim]

And yet Anthony Lynn had a better record than Staley in his first 2 years and a playoff win.

..And dove in the dumpster year 3. We're looking for steady improvement. So far, so good.

[CivilBolt]

And yet Anthony Lynn had a better record than Staley in his first 2 years and a playoff win.

I think that was mostly veteran Rivers bailing him out. I’m curious how many wins he racked up if Taylor was the QB.

[Critty]

One thing about Staley thus far and remains to be seen: Staley isn’t exactly a proven culture builder when compared to the likes of Andy Reid, Mike Tomlin, Bill Bellichik or even perhaps a Sean Peyton. It remains to be seen if he’s any more than a wunderkind hire at this point.

Steelers organization have a culture for decades upon decades. Tomlin was given the baton and performed well. His Superbowl win was 15 years ago. But that organization hires their HCs until that man is ready to resign.

Belicheck culture in Cleveland. Didn't happen.
His culture in New England looks very much like riding Tom Brady's greatness until he has success without him.

Sean Payton only had 1 winning season his first 3 years with Saints and was only 2 games over .500. And also had a stretch of 3 straight 7-9 seasons during his tenure with Saints.

Reid has been very successful at two spots. Although his first year as rookie HC he went 5-11. And final season with Eagles was 4-12. The Superbowls only happened in his 2nd HC job with Mahomes, who is by far his most talented QB.

Not to mention all these coaches have coached for over a decade. Made a name for themselves and then and only then do they get applauded for their culture.

Add Pete Carroll to the list. His rookie HC job he went 6-10 with Jets. Did well with NE. Then to Seattle where he goes 7-9 first two years before they start to get good.

Meanwhile Staley has coach 2 years.
Both winning seasons and is 4 games above .500

Of these culture builders.
Only Tomlin has a better winning percentage after two years than Brandon Staley. But Tomlin was the only 1 of those great coaches to inherited a team with a franchise Superbowl winning QB and a team that was filled with guy that won the title 2 years earlier.

I say all that to say this. Your take seem odd. A two year HC is not exactly the proven culture builders of the hall of famer who have coached for decades.
Well ....duh.

But the story says Staley has done more with less than those gentlemen and did it with an organization/ownership that has struggled to build a championship culture itself. At least that is my spin on it. And I added some facts and detail as well.

[Boltgang74]

I think that was mostly veteran Rivers bailing him out. I’m curious how many wins he racked up if Taylor was the QB.

And Staley has Herbert,jus sayin.