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[equivocation]

MW was clearly exhausted by the end of the game. A lot of players were. Ekeler was fresh.

[Formula 21]

I think the offense will improve significantly just from Herbert having another year.

And his top 4 receivers plus RB plus TEs having another year. Slayer’s hands can be better, Palmer’s awareness can be better, everybody has more time together. The left side of the OL has a year together. The running game should be more physical this year.

This offense can be #1 this year.

[equivocation]

And his top 4 receivers plus RB plus TEs having another year. Slayer’s hands can be better, Palmer’s awareness can be better, everybody has more time together. The left side of the OL has a year together. The running game should be more physical this year.

This offense can be #1 this year.

Yes, there's a lot of reasons to say "run it back" on offense this year.

No reasons to say that about the defense. So the team didn't.

[Boltjolt]

Not about the O getting so much blame, just their fair share, as you say plenty to go around.

Also, we absolutely did not lose that Raider game until they kicked the last FG, which would’ve been moot if our final scoring drive had ended in six, cuz game over. Kicking a FG to tie it in OT lost that game, and after our terrible, sucky D somehow miraculously held LV to 3 when they first had the ball. If that’s not the definition of the D giving the O a chance to win it after everything else good and bad and the chips are down, don’t know what is. If we had scored a TD on our last drive and won the game, our D would’ve gotten a wee bit more love. Our O too.

Well unfortunately the O doesn't score a TD at will or we would have scored 1000 points. Again, there are other drives to consider but you keep focusing on one drive that didn't extend our season.

The defense have us A chance, the offense gave the defense leads and numerous chances to make a stop but couldn't get off the field.

[equivocation]

Making roster build decisions off one drive is foolish, regardless.

[Guest]

I'll say it again - we lost the Raider game by them kicking a fg, not scoring a TD. It does not matter whether you score a TD, fg or hold the other team as long as you have more points at the end of the game than the other team does. Yes a TD would have won on our last 2 drives, but a fg would have won if our D stopped them. They didn't, resulting in a team loss. I'm not sure why the O is getting so much blame here when there was plenty to go around in virtually ever game.

Having said that, the offense should be better being in the second year of a system (first time for Herbert since high school) and upgrades at TE and RG. RT still worries me with memories of Norton completely overmatched in that last game...

I agree that we needed a TD on our OT drive. But we also had the chance to win the game in regulation by going for the two-point conversion. And, of course, we got screwed on the OT coin toss like always, which basically cost us two divisional wins last season.

[blueman]

Making roster build decisions off one drive is foolish, regardless.

Missing the point of that example: how that game ended was how most of our losses ended, both the O and the D getting beat, that’s all.

But agree, considering how each unit did, not making too many changes to the O (while keel hauling the D) makes sense, yes.

[sonorajim]

Missing the point of that example: how that game ended was how most of our losses ended, both the O and the D getting beat, that’s all.

But agree, considering how each unit did, not making too many changes to the O (while keel hauling the D) makes sense, yes.

The Chargers were the highest scoring 4th quarter offense in the NFL last year. They were not perfect. The D was closer. Perfect losers.

[blueman]

The Chargers were the highest scoring 4th quarter offense in the NFL last year. They were not perfect. The D was closer. Perfect losers.

And I bet every playoff team was better than 50/50 in one score games. If the game is that close late, kicking FGs and throwing pick 6s will bounce you out of contention.

The D needs to be able to stop teams late more consistently, and the O needs to be able to close out close games more consistently. Hopefully the off-season changes to both help with that.

[Boltjolt]

And I bet every playoff team was better than 50/50 in one score games. If the game is that close late, kicking FGs and throwing pick 6s will bounce you out of contention.

The D needs to be able to stop teams late more consistently, and the O needs to be able to close out close games more consistently. Hopefully the off-season changes to both help with that.

Throughout the game more consistantly. It would be a big difference just to not be last in the league on 3rd downs. Move that up to 10- to 15 range and its a lot different. Helps with TOP for the offense and more scoring opportunities.

[blueman]

Throughout the game more consistantly. It would be a big difference just to not be last in the league on 3rd downs. Move that up to 10- to 15 range and its a lot different. Helps with TOP for the offense and more scoring opportunities.

Agreed. Absolutely.

But, in those inevitable 4th quarter shootouts…cuz they will happen.

[Xenos]

I agree that we needed a TD on our OT drive. But we also had the chance to win the game in regulation by going for the two-point conversion. And, of course, we got screwed on the OT coin toss like always, which basically cost us two divisional wins last season.

If a tie didn’t guarantee us a playoff spot then yeah we should have gone for it. But as it is, I suspect the analytics was to go for the tie rather than the win.