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  • Parcells
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    Gotta pay Williams. He will want the long term deal. So the threat of the franchise tag should be enough to get the deal done. He’s got the chemistry with Herbert, so he’s probably worth more to us than another team. I liked what I saw from Palmer down the stretch. I look at Palmer and see a guy who is more likely to replace KA in a couple years.

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  • Riverwalk
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    Originally posted by RollingThunder View Post
    I really like MW's metrics and some of his games are awesome but he just seems too inconsistent from game to game. I'm on the fence on this.
    His chemistry with Herbert is undeniable. Palmer can’t hold Williams jock and a draft pick could end up a bust.

    Unless you want to let Williams walk and replace him with a stud WR free agent, I say pay the man.

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  • RollingThunder
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    I really like MW's metrics and some of his games are awesome but he just seems too inconsistent from game to game. I'm on the fence on this.

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  • powderblueboy
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    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
    I hear you boltjolt, but we need more than "set at WR"

    arms race in AFCW
    Herbert is not a qb that will rely on a dominant run game and/or awesome tight end like over half the top 15 qbs do
    we have a chance to be truly explosive with Herbert, as in, 5 wr sets ala New England 2007 record setting explosive
    This offense will give us a chance in any game the defense doesn't show up or is plain banged up
    WR is akin to OL imo because if someone is open, Herbert will find him and deliver on time
    it's almost like cheating
    Again, a very New England approach haha
    It would be cool: like trying to get double dates at a club accompanied by your friend with the mouth sores.

    The 2007 Pats had a good defense.

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  • Velo
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    Because we needed a WR.
    Hill is nuttin to speak. I never thought Palmer was to replace MW and he won't replace his playmaking ability.

    If we resign MW we won't need to draft another WR unless somebody falls that is a good value. But if Reed can be healthy I think we are set.
    Palmer to replace MW was the general consensus when he was drafted, I don't know if that's what TT had in mind. But resigning MW, and with Palmer No. 3 and Guyton No. 4, I think it would be one of the better WR quartets in the league. (Reed developing into a viable WR would be icing on the cake.) But when you are talking about the Chargers' passing attack and WRs, you also have to factor in Ekeler, who is a big part of the passing game. He led the league in receiving yds (647) and TDs (8) by an RB. That's more production than a lot of No.2 WRs. So when you factor in Ekeler, I don't know if there is a better set of receivers in the league for any QB. (And that is without factoring in any TE; but the Chargers don't have a dynamic receiving threat at TE right now.)

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  • wu-dai clan
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    We shall see.

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  • Bolt4Knob
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    Originally posted by 21&500 View Post
    Sorry if it's been covered but how much more per year would Devonta Adams command?
    just curious, love you Mike
    My guess on an AAV basis - Adams cost 6-8m more per year

    But the only numbers that matter are the cap hit and how you manipulate the cap each year to maximize. I know this much, Adams is worth talking too if he is a FA and that is one reason I may negotiate with MW but I am not locking into the franchise because I may want to talk to DA17

    I always bring up the RAms and Saints and they are an extreme example of teams that push the cap. But there are ways around the cap. For instance, even if its Mike Williams, they can write a contract for MW81 that has a smallish year 1 cap hit knowing that there is a possibllity that in 2023 - Keenan Allen will not be making the dollars he is scheduled to make so you can backload numbers to make it work.

    Cap management is not hard - its more does the Spanii legitimately have the cash flow to truly make it work

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  • 21&500
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    I hear you boltjolt, but we need more than "set at WR"

    arms race in AFCW
    Herbert is not a qb that will rely on a dominant run game and/or awesome tight end like over half the top 15 qbs do
    we have a chance to be truly explosive with Herbert, as in, 5 wr sets ala New England 2007 record setting explosive
    This offense will give us a chance in any game the defense doesn't show up or is plain banged up
    WR is akin to OL imo because if someone is open, Herbert will find him and deliver on time
    it's almost like cheating
    Again, a very New England approach haha

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  • Boltjolt
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
    Learn me why Palmer was drafted.
    Because we needed a WR.
    Hill is nuttin to speak. I never thought Palmer was to replace MW and he won't replace his playmaking ability.

    If we resign MW we won't need to draft another WR unless somebody falls that is a good value. But if Reed can be healthy I think we are set.

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  • 21&500
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    Sorry if it's been covered but how much more per year would Devonta Adams command?
    just curious, love you Mike

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  • Velo
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    Originally posted by jubei View Post
    I dont remember tolbert being one to run away from defenders unless it was a dlineman. I remember Ryan Mathews did most of the heavy running between the 20's and then Tolbert would steal his TDs in the red zone. But Means and Butts were pretty awesome RBs. LT in his own class.
    I remember one game against the Raiders where Mike Tolbert was the starter and he ran all over and away from Raider defenders. He had his moments.

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  • Bolt-O
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    Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
    Learn me why Palmer was drafted.
    Off topic.

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