Patriots at Chargers Pregame Discussion (wk 8)

[Xenos]

In your opinion, has it helped?

Things look slightly better than las year. But it’s too early to tell given that we’ve only started investing this past offseason. One of those things that you have to keep building on year in and year out. It’s what Staley praised Harbaugh and the Ravens organization on.

[dmac_bolt]

If Brady were still in NE, the Pats would have been in the playoffs, and would be contending this year. Discuss amongst yourselves …

[TexanBeerlover]

Things look slightly better than las year. But it’s too early to tell given that we’ve only started investing this past offseason. One of those things that you have to keep building on year in and year out. It’s what Staley praised Harbaugh and the Ravens organization on.

Had to look it up wasn’t sure, just knew it was bad, last in league bad, both 2020 and so far in 2021.

[equivocation]

Had to look it up wasn’t sure, just knew it was bad, last in league bad, both 2020 and so far in 2021.

Someone posted the stats broken out by group.

Place kicking and kick returns were bottom of the league.

Kick coverage and punt returns were in the 20s

Punting and punt coverage were dead average.


So it has gotten better and we've replaced the worst performers this week.

[Boltjolt]

According to this site, we have 4 Charger 5th round picks on our roster

- Easton Stick
- Joe Reed
- Brendan Jaimes
- Qberry

Zero starters. which of those guys would we not want to trade for a player that could contribute to 2021 LAC? Note we do have a couple 5th rounder starters, its just TT didn’t pick them. In my view, 5th picks have twice the odds as a UDFA. They may linger in the bottom of the roster a bit longer because they were drafted, but there’s no impact from any of those 4. Sign two UDFAs and you’ve got almost the same odds as your one 5th rd pk.

Still hoping Jaimes could turn into a starting RG but will he really be better than the average mid-pack RG FA we can pick up if there’s a hole? Aboushi signed a $1.25M contract, thats always affordable.

https://www.lineups.com/nfl/roster/los-angeles-chargers

No......it hasnt worked that way. We sign 15 to 20 UDFA's after the draft every year and 1, maybe 2 make the team and then we got lucky with a couple like Ekeler and Gates,..... and Gates goes back some years. The odds are a lot higher with UDFA's. We have 8 guys on our PS from those yearly UDFA's and many of them never make it to the squad and there is changeover yearly.

We signed Parham from the XFL in 2020 after their season so technically he was a UDFA in 2019 but developed some on PS's and played in another league.

[Charge!]

Someone posted the stats broken out by group.

Place kicking and kick returns were bottom of the league.

Kick coverage and punt returns were in the 20s

Punting and punt coverage were dead average.


So it has gotten better and we've replaced the worst performers this week.

tackling skills and angles taken by our defenders and ST's have been horrible for years....... and they have not gotten better this year.... we dont tackle in practice and no one plays in pre season because we are scared to get injured..... so when regular season starts its our first real attempt at tackling.....

if suddenly that reverses on Sunday and we stuff the NE running game and ST's, I will be happy but very shocked..... that team is far more disciplined than our players oare..... that is why the dominate us every time we play them.....

it took 6 weeks for this team to go find a real kicker and a real returner????..... 6 weeks????!!!!!!!...... for something that was super obvious to all chargers fans before season started......

based on taking 6 weeks to admit we needed a real kicker and a real returner, it may take a full season and off season to correct our tackling/run defending issues....

all that said, i do believe in Staley and that we are heading in the right direction...... we have greatly improved in a number of areas, but we had far more to do than one off season coulfd solve....

[beachcomber]

Chargers win this game by more than two touchdowns....

[Boltgang74]

Chargers win this game by more than two touchdowns....

Just curious,did you think we were gonna beat the Ravens?

[powderblueboy]

What?
Like anybody can just be Jordan or Kobe or Montana or Brady.
Yes these players are unique and accomplish things that if you replaced them with so called decent player in that roster spot then the results would Not be the same. The moment you replace that all time great player, you have a different team. And the team would be very different if you replaced them with just any avg player.
Yes you have to replace a star with a star.
You need to replace Brady with a Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers to even have a chance to do something similar and even then you can't duplicate the other players style and decisions and gameplay. So who knows what the end result is.

You contend that QBs are like mechanical cogs in a system and that you can switch them out like your installing a new battery and you get the same performance from the machine.

I think your opinion on this is very flawed (wrong).
And then you discredit a quality analogy you clearly don't understand.
I think my opinion is the better one.
You think yours is.
Keep it moving.
:hello:

I'm not going to bother with this other than remind you that analogies are meant to clarify and simplify.
The very statement "a quality analogy you clearly do not understand" is a contradiction.

[equivocation]

Inconceivable!

[21&500]

According to Chris Simms burrow/chase are the new montana/rice....
I must have missed something

[Boltdiehard]

According to Chris Simms burrow/chase are the new montana/rice....
I must have missed something

I don’t know about that typical media hype but those two do have a connection from LSU and they’re pretty darn good.