2022 Official Chargers Season Discussion

[beachcomber]

this is my roster heading into the draft.... based on previous post,

QB * JH10, Chase
RB * Ek, Ronald/D'ernest * lookin' for day three developmental back
WR * Keenan, Palmer, Cedrick * could be a round one to round this position group into top shape, minus the $19m
TE * Howard, McKitty, Parham * still lookin' for a mid round value pick @TE
OT * Rashawn, Feiler, Pips, Storm * unless Faalele drops, don't see us going OT early in the process
OG * Jaimes, Oday, Scho * am hoping for Zion to fall to us @48
OC * Linsley, Qberry * not keen on anyone in particular in the draft @IOL

NT * Shelton * think early day three/round four is where we'll be fishin' for another NT
DT * Jones, BJ Hill, Tillery * my guess is that we might add an anticlimatic DT pick @the end of day three
ED * Joey, Rumph, Dorance * there will be talent there @17, and decent additions available after that
LB * Murray, Drue, Og, Niemann * think it's "suck for Sewell" for 2023
CB * ASJ, Levi Wallace, Mike D. * don't have to be dependent upon the draft for a starter here as we can get a developmental prospect if that's how it plays out
S * James, Nas, Keanu Neal * def would like to add a day three prospect here for depth

K * Koo * not lookin' kicker in the draft, but def on the watch for P

[dmac_bolt]

The Chargers' pass defense, in yds allowed per game, was considerably better than that of the Rams or Bengals. So just as it was in 2021, it was more than good enough to get into the Super Bowl.

They both had a lot more attempts against them. Yards / Att were nearly identical at 7.1 vs 7.2, which in itself still does not disprove your point - it just recalibrates it slightly.

I’m still back to there’s stats and then there’s my lying eyes. I saw every snap of every game, like you probably did. and every play is not equally important. Important plays and series define a team’s ability. Games where a good opponent NEEDED to pass on 3rd down or at end of game, they too often could. We had near worst 3rd down defense, and a lot of that was pass defense. We were not a bad pass defense but we were not a great pass defense and we should improve there. The fact teams crushed so many rush yards on us did affect the official pass yard stats. We were 9th in fewest pass attempts, 14th in yards allowed.

[Bolt4Knob]

They both had a lot more attempts against them. Yards / Att were nearly identical at 7.1 vs 7.2, which in itself still does not disprove your point - it just recalibrates it slightly.

I’m still back to there’s stats and then there’s my lying eyes. I saw every snap of every game, like you probably did. and every play is not equally important. Important plays and series define a team’s ability. Games where a good opponent NEEDED to pass on 3rd down or at end of game, they too often could. We had near worst 3rd down defense, and a lot of that was pass defense. We were not a bad pass defense but we were not a great pass defense and we should improve there. The fact teams crushed so many rush yards on us did affect the official pass yard stats. We were 9th in fewest pass attempts, 14th in yards allowed.

Biggest change in 2022 is the defense needs to get off the field

And you are correct - there were times I had basically zero faith the team could stop a third down from happening. The Chargers defense just could not get off the field. So its run defense and pass rush first and foremost to me that needs to be upgraded. So if you can upgrade from Jones and Nwosu in free agency -- do it. I don't think Telesco/Staley will be beholden to anybody on the roster.

We already know they need an upgrade from Joseph, Harris and the back up depth on the DLine

[ChargersPowderBlue]

The run defense was significantly better when Jones played.

It still wasn't enough to improve the bad run defense. And Jones is very overrated.

[richpjr]

It still wasn't enough to improve the bad run defense. And Jones is very overrated.

I don’t think he is very overrated, I just think he is an average lineman with nobody good behind him. When he didn’t play the vast drop off made it seem like he was better than he really was.

[Bolt4Knob]

I don’t think he is very overrated, I just think he is an average lineman with nobody good behind him. When he didn’t play the vast drop off made it seem like he was better than he really was.

Very true. The data showed the team was better with him than without him. But like you said thats the depth issue. SO if Jones is back but Telesco signs an IDL that is BETTER than Jones plus adds better depth behind him, thats good. But if Jones is IDL1 - thats an issue.

Same with Nwosu - he was pretty inconsisent. I know I have allocated cap dollars to Williams, Nwosu, Jones and White - but I very comfortable if the IDL depth gets a pretty big turnover. I don't know if Nwosu or Jones needs to be back

[Velo]

They both had a lot more attempts against them. Yards / Att were nearly identical at 7.1 vs 7.2, which in itself still does not disprove your point - it just recalibrates it slightly.

I’m still back to there’s stats and then there’s my lying eyes. I saw every snap of every game, like you probably did. and every play is not equally important. Important plays and series define a team’s ability. Games where a good opponent NEEDED to pass on 3rd down or at end of game, they too often could. We had near worst 3rd down defense, and a lot of that was pass defense. We were not a bad pass defense but we were not a great pass defense and we should improve there. The fact teams crushed so many rush yards on us did affect the official pass yard stats. We were 9th in fewest pass attempts, 14th in yards allowed.

Yeah, you're right. Can't argue with this at all.

[Velo]

Dalton Schultz - I'm reading the Cowboys' TE might be a FA target of Telesco and his boys. The 'Boys drafted him out of Stanford in 2018 in the 4th round. He was a development project, but looks like he's starting to blossom after his 4th season, where he posted 78 catches, 808 yds, and 8 TDs. I'm reading Dallas may not be able to keep him, the 'Boys are already way over the cap and they are already have Blake Jarwin under contract for $6-7 mil per for the next two seasons.

Schultz is 6-5, 244, kind of light for a TE, he's really more like a slightly bigger WR. (He only weighs 10-15 lbs more than Vincent Jackson did for example.) I don't know what he is like as a blocker, but he would be a really good target for Justin, much better I'm guessing than Cook. He'll turn 26 in July, acquiring him would give the Chargers an exceptionally deep TE room, and a young one at that.

[electricgold]

Dalton Schultz - I'm reading the Cowboys' TE might be a FA target of Telesco and his boys. The 'Boys drafted him out of Stanford in 2018 in the 4th round. He was a development project, but looks like he's starting to blossom after his 4th season, where he posted 78 catches, 808 yds, and 8 TDs. I'm reading Dallas may not be able to keep him, the 'Boys are already way over the cap and they are already have Blake Jarwin under contract for $6-7 mil per for the next two seasons.

Schultz is 6-5, 244, kind of light for a TE, he's really more like a slightly bigger WR. (He only weighs 10-15 lbs more than Vincent Jackson did for example.) I don't know what he is like as a blocker, but he would be a really good target for Justin, much better I'm guessing than Cook. He'll turn 26 in July, acquiring him would give the Chargers an exceptionally deep TE room, and a young one at that.

BINGO! It doesn't matter who the TE is, however the Chargers need to add a TE who will put up this sort of production. If Schultz could do it, and it looks like he CAN sign him. If he comes here and puts up subpar numbers then pass. This is the sort of thing we need to do. Give Herbert as many weapons as you can! as opposed to maybe adding an old LB and DE star free agent.

[Velo]

BINGO! It doesn't matter who the TE is, however the Chargers need to add a TE who will put up this sort of production. If Schultz could do it, and it looks like he CAN sign him. If he comes here and puts up subpar numbers then pass. This is the sort of thing we need to do. Give Herbert as many weapons as you can!

I guess my only concern is his block ability. I have no idea what his reputation is in that department. But he is on the light side for a TE.

[Bolt4Knob]

I guess my only concern is his block ability. I have no idea what his reputation is in that department. But he is on the light side for a TE.

I am good with upgrading the roster but I do think certain positions take precedence. Schultz would be a fine addition as long as Telesco takes care of IDL and Edge in free agency.

[blueman]

The Chargers' pass defense, in yds allowed per game, was considerably better than that of the Rams or Bengals. So just as it was in 2021, it was more than good enough to get into the Super Bowl.

W/L is the better metric. Then, look at how those loses happened, were we blown out or did we buckle at the end…