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  • wu-dai clan
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    Brian Robinson, back from gunshot wound, has keyed the resurgent Commanders.

    We must have Kelley and/or Spiller bring it NOW !
    We do not play modern football.

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    • Velo
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      Originally posted by cmplxgal View Post
      https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/news...ley-comparison


      Why Derwin James Draws Comparison to LeBron James From Chargers Coach

      Nicholas Cothrel
      6 minutes ago


      COSTA MESA – In five seasons since Derwin James broke into the NFL, he's quickly established himself as one of the game's top safeties. But the value he provides to the Chargers is more than just what he does from his most natural position.

      The praise and admiration for James' game can't solely be quantified by his play from the safety alignment. But rather, his capabilities when being utilized at other positions while still maintaining his elite level of productivity is what makes him such a unique player.

      James' versatility at the NFL level has been put on display ever since he was drafted No. 17th overall by the Chargers in 2018. But this season in particular, Chargers coach Brandon Staley has given James a larger workload to shoulder in an effort to fully maximize his qualities.

      “He’s doing the job of six other players," Staley said of the role James has played this season. "If you just said that one player is doing that job, you would have an expectation, but he is doing the job of six other players. That is what makes him so valuable. Mentally, there is a huge tax in understanding what to do and how to do it. Then, you have to understand what is going on, on the other side of the ball and that implication in six other roles."

      James has lined up at every level of the defense this season. From the defensive line, to a glorified linebacker, to playing the deep part of the field, James has been asked to do it.

      Snap counts from James this season, per Pro Football Focus:

      Defensive line: 56
      Box: 291
      Free safety: 296
      Slot corner: 134
      Outside corner: 17

      On Wednesday, James drew a lofty comparison to another star athlete in Los Angeles from his coach.

      Staley compared the Chargers' do-it-all defender to Lakers star LeBron James based on the similarities they have to one another in how each player is able to play numerous positions without sacrificing efficiency.

      "He is like that LeBron James-type of player where he can just do everything," Staley said of D. James. "The thing that makes LeBron so unique is that he plays all five positions, and he plays them all at a premium level. He can do everything at the highest level that you could ask anybody to do — point guard, two guard, scoring, three-point, guard any position, post-up game, transition. You name it, LeBron can do it. That is something that is rare, and that’s why everyone reveres him that way because everyone knows that there are not many people that can do that."

      James spoke Wednesday at his locker with a great sense of appreciation that Staley delivered such a compliment in comparing him to one of the basketball greats.

      "He said that? Oh, appreciate that," James said. "I don't try to look at myself like LeBron, but I try to look at myself like I can do a lot to help this team win. Whether it's playing in the box or playing deep. I'm not just out here thinking I'm LeBron."

      As James has been deployed across the field in more ways than one this season, the Chargers have turned to him in the most critical spots to cover the opposing team's top skill player man-to-man.

      Two weeks ago against the Chiefs, James received snaps matched up against tight end Travis Kelce. Last week, he was tasked with slowing down Cardinals wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins for lengths at a time.

      "I say it all the time, but last week was a signature play because it’s him on Hopkins and Hopkins is as good of a receiver as there is in the pros," Staley added. "Derwin was able to knock that one down for us. You need those signature plays in big games like that to give you the energy, give you the lift. You have heard me say that, but your premium players in this league, they have to make premium plays for you because it really ignites your football team.”

      After the Chargers' Week 11 loss to Kansas City left the team with a sour taste in their mouths, James looked to have taken that personally. Last Sunday in Arizona, he proved to be a difference maker, forcing a fumble that the Chargers would recover and later came down with an interception on a contested pass to Hopkins.

      James says he used to envision himself being a versatile playmaker to this magnitude before it actually became a reality.

      "I used to imitate it on the video game, as crazy as it sounds," James said of the thought of him lining up at so many different positions. "Just trying to move my player everywhere. And then when I tried it in college, I'm like 'hey, this is not as bad as I think it is.'"

      It's clear that James and the Chargers defense go hand-and-hand. He sets the tone for that unit, and they go as he goes. But James, while playing a multitude of different positions, says he prioritizes not just being a player that can play different spots, but that he wants to ensure he's able to do so at the level of expectations that he's set for himself.

      "I don't want to be the guy just playing positions to play them," he said. "If I'm gonna move somewhere, I'm going to play them at a high level. That's always been my mindset."
      I love me some Derwin, he's a great player and a class act. But the Chargers' defense right now is not very good right now and this piece just seems out of place. As good as he is, Derwin is not carrying the defense on his back and elevating it to another level. It's not his fault the run defense stinks. But until this defense starts to perform at a higher level I kind of cringe at any piece that compares a Chargers' defender to an all time great.

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      • BayAreaBoltz
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        This play from Sunday just kills me (and sums up so much about our defense). Conner actually gets the first down here!! Ugh.

        Screen Shot 2022-11-30 at 8.04.15 PM.png

        How can Staley fix this?

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        • NoMoreChillies
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          Originally posted by BayAreaBoltz View Post
          This play from Sunday just kills me (and sums up so much about our defense). Conner actually gets the first down here!! Ugh.

          Screen Shot 2022-11-30 at 8.04.15 PM.png

          How can Staley fix this?
          have Bosa set the edge

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          • Berserker76
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            Originally posted by BayAreaBoltz View Post
            This play from Sunday just kills me (and sums up so much about our defense). Conner actually gets the first down here!! Ugh.

            Screen Shot 2022-11-30 at 8.04.15 PM.png

            How can Staley fix this?
            It looks like he has coached up the gang tackling, maybe better talent?

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            • jamrock
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              Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
              Brian Robinson, back from gunshot wound, has keyed the resurgent Commanders.

              We must have Kelley and/or Spiller bring it NOW !
              Do gun shot wounds heal faster than groin tears? Asking for a friend

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              • ChargersPowderBlue
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                Originally posted by Berserker76 View Post

                It looks like he has coached up the gang tackling, maybe better talent?
                Like what? What positions?

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                • jamrock
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                  Originally posted by Berserker76 View Post

                  It looks like he has coached up the gang tackling, maybe better talent?
                  Callahan was the guy trying to wrap him up in the picture and Connor was too strong for him. No excuse for the other 2 guys. Connor is a tough runner but that should not have been a first down

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                  • Berserker76
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                    Originally posted by ChargersPowderBlue View Post

                    Like what? What positions?
                    Maybe more players like Greenlaw & Hufanga that play for the niners. Guys that are fast and tough, can actually wrap guys up and put them down. Didn't mean to knock Callahan, the guy's been a real gift for us.

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                    • wu-dai clan
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                      Hufanga. Round 5. Very good.
                      Maybe Alohi Gilman can develop.
                      He has finally started to flash.
                      Gotta defend the length and width of the field.
                      We do not play modern football.

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                      • Velo
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                        Originally posted by cmplxgal View Post
                        https://www.si.com/nfl/chargers/news...ley-comparison


                        Why Derwin James Draws Comparison to LeBron James From Chargers Coach

                        Nicholas Cothrel
                        6 minutes ago


                        COSTA MESA – In five seasons since Derwin James broke into the NFL, he's quickly established himself as one of the game's top safeties. But the value he provides to the Chargers is more than just what he does from his most natural position.

                        The praise and admiration for James' game can't solely be quantified by his play from the safety alignment. But rather, his capabilities when being utilized at other positions while still maintaining his elite level of productivity is what makes him such a unique player.

                        James' versatility at the NFL level has been put on display ever since he was drafted No. 17th overall by the Chargers in 2018. But this season in particular, Chargers coach Brandon Staley has given James a larger workload to shoulder in an effort to fully maximize his qualities.

                        “He’s doing the job of six other players," Staley said of the role James has played this season. "If you just said that one player is doing that job, you would have an expectation, but he is doing the job of six other players. That is what makes him so valuable. Mentally, there is a huge tax in understanding what to do and how to do it. Then, you have to understand what is going on, on the other side of the ball and that implication in six other roles."

                        James has lined up at every level of the defense this season. From the defensive line, to a glorified linebacker, to playing the deep part of the field, James has been asked to do it.

                        Snap counts from James this season, per Pro Football Focus:

                        Defensive line: 56
                        Box: 291
                        Free safety: 296
                        Slot corner: 134
                        Outside corner: 17

                        On Wednesday, James drew a lofty comparison to another star athlete in Los Angeles from his coach.

                        Staley compared the Chargers' do-it-all defender to Lakers star LeBron James based on the similarities they have to one another in how each player is able to play numerous positions without sacrificing efficiency.

                        "He is like that LeBron James-type of player where he can just do everything," Staley said of D. James. "The thing that makes LeBron so unique is that he plays all five positions, and he plays them all at a premium level. He can do everything at the highest level that you could ask anybody to do — point guard, two guard, scoring, three-point, guard any position, post-up game, transition. You name it, LeBron can do it. That is something that is rare, and that’s why everyone reveres him that way because everyone knows that there are not many people that can do that."

                        James spoke Wednesday at his locker with a great sense of appreciation that Staley delivered such a compliment in comparing him to one of the basketball greats.

                        "He said that? Oh, appreciate that," James said. "I don't try to look at myself like LeBron, but I try to look at myself like I can do a lot to help this team win. Whether it's playing in the box or playing deep. I'm not just out here thinking I'm LeBron."

                        As James has been deployed across the field in more ways than one this season, the Chargers have turned to him in the most critical spots to cover the opposing team's top skill player man-to-man.

                        Two weeks ago against the Chiefs, James received snaps matched up against tight end Travis Kelce. Last week, he was tasked with slowing down Cardinals wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins for lengths at a time.

                        "I say it all the time, but last week was a signature play because it’s him on Hopkins and Hopkins is as good of a receiver as there is in the pros," Staley added. "Derwin was able to knock that one down for us. You need those signature plays in big games like that to give you the energy, give you the lift. You have heard me say that, but your premium players in this league, they have to make premium plays for you because it really ignites your football team.”

                        After the Chargers' Week 11 loss to Kansas City left the team with a sour taste in their mouths, James looked to have taken that personally. Last Sunday in Arizona, he proved to be a difference maker, forcing a fumble that the Chargers would recover and later came down with an interception on a contested pass to Hopkins.

                        James says he used to envision himself being a versatile playmaker to this magnitude before it actually became a reality.

                        "I used to imitate it on the video game, as crazy as it sounds," James said of the thought of him lining up at so many different positions. "Just trying to move my player everywhere. And then when I tried it in college, I'm like 'hey, this is not as bad as I think it is.'"

                        It's clear that James and the Chargers defense go hand-and-hand. He sets the tone for that unit, and they go as he goes. But James, while playing a multitude of different positions, says he prioritizes not just being a player that can play different spots, but that he wants to ensure he's able to do so at the level of expectations that he's set for himself.

                        "I don't want to be the guy just playing positions to play them," he said. "If I'm gonna move somewhere, I'm going to play them at a high level. That's always been my mindset."
                        Derwin has been named AFC's Defensive Player of the Month for October.

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                        • Berserker76
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                          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post
                          Hufanga. Round 5. Very good.
                          Maybe Alohi Gilman can develop.
                          He has finally started to flash.
                          Gotta defend the length and width of the field.
                          Yeah, I'm real happy to see Gilman's development, had given him up for lost.

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