2022 Official Chargers Season Discussion

[Boltjolt]

Staley has said, or it was Popper who quated Staley that Nwosu .........was perfect for this defense. I dont know if they keep him or not but apparently they like him for the D. Hopefully his coming on in the D will be progressive going forward and he wants to stay in LA where he has been the last 7 years counting his USC days.

However, me im not paying him 12 Mil a year. 7 Mil a year is a bit of a swallow but its much better than 12. Maybe he will take 6 mil/year.

Sam Williams will come down to the interviews as he has that sexual assault tied with him, ...whether or not it was dropped. Thats not choir boy material.

[Steve]

Just because a web page has come up with a technique to value a player doesn't mean the Chargers have to use it. They can make any offer they want.

I like Nwosu for our D. I think he is a good fit. I just think we can do better in terms of pass rush. Signing Nwosu would at least give us a run-down player, who can get after the QB some. Maybe Rumph will rapidly develop into a pass rush specialist and between the two of them and Bosa, will become even more productive as a group.

I am just saying that if the right guy is there in the 1st round, I wouldn't pass up the pass rusher. If the top Edge guys are all gone, we can still go for CB or DE(DT), or even Lloyd or Dean at ILB. Or a RT.

The thing is at 17, we don't necessarily have that much control over who we draft. We just need to find someone who is a good fit, who can either fill a need, or provide enough of an upgrade to make the Chargers a better team. We have a lot of low to moderate needs, but most positions we don't have gapping needs, at least until FA starts. And that will tell a lot of what positions we may target.

[sonorajim]

Just because a web page has come up with a technique to value a player doesn't mean the Chargers have to use it. They can make any offer they want.

I like Nwosu for our D. I think he is a good fit. I just think we can do better in terms of pass rush. Signing Nwosu would at least give us a run-down player, who can get after the QB some. Maybe Rumph will rapidly develop into a pass rush specialist and between the two of them and Bosa, will become even more productive as a group.

I am just saying that if the right guy is there in the 1st round, I wouldn't pass up the pass rusher. If the top Edge guys are all gone, we can still go for CB or DE(DT), or even Lloyd or Dean at ILB. Or a RT.

The thing is at 17, we don't necessarily have that much control over who we draft. We just need to find someone who is a good fit, who can either fill a need, or provide enough of an upgrade to make the Chargers a better team. We have a lot of low to moderate needs, but most positions we don't have gapping needs, at least until FA starts. And that will tell a lot of what positions we may target.

BPA that fits, with respect to existing team & scheme. We have some exceptionally talented players already. We need to support what they do.

[gzubeck]

Just because a web page has come up with a technique to value a player doesn't mean the Chargers have to use it. They can make any offer they want.

I like Nwosu for our D. I think he is a good fit. I just think we can do better in terms of pass rush. Signing Nwosu would at least give us a run-down player, who can get after the QB some. Maybe Rumph will rapidly develop into a pass rush specialist and between the two of them and Bosa, will become even more productive as a group.

I am just saying that if the right guy is there in the 1st round, I wouldn't pass up the pass rusher. If the top Edge guys are all gone, we can still go for CB or DE(DT), or even Lloyd or Dean at ILB. Or a RT.

The thing is at 17, we don't necessarily have that much control over who we draft. We just need to find someone who is a good fit, who can either fill a need, or provide enough of an upgrade to make the Chargers a better team. We have a lot of low to moderate needs, but most positions we don't have gapping needs, at least until FA starts. And that will tell a lot of what positions we may target.

Luckily we always have 3-4 openings on our team where we can upgrade at with pick #17. RT, CB, or some other outstanding defensive player. It's not like we have to draft a QB or something like that...

:shifty:

[sonorajim]

FA is 1st. Which Chargers do we re-up? Who do we target from other teams?
On O we need WR, RT, RG, #2 RB, TE.
On D - DT, Edge, ILB, CBs. FA will cover some.
Right now my early draft targets would be DT, Edge, ILB, CB in order of BPA. But that's not exclusive. I'd make room for top talent that slipped down at any position.

[dmac_bolt]

There is no such thing as too many pass rushers.

There could be such a thing, but its a number a lot bigger than the 1 premium rusher we have on the entire team. We can collect for a little while before the shelf is full

[dmac_bolt]

BPA that fits, with respect to existing team & scheme. We have some exceptionally talented players already. We need to support what they do.

If you’re picking pure BPA, you use already have a SB Roster. We don’t have such a thing - #17 needs to be a starter so pick a position that needs a starter upgrade. That shouldn’t be hard - i can think of a half dozen easy

[equivocation]

There could be such a thing, but its a number a lot bigger than the 1 premium rusher we have on the entire team. We can collect for a little while before the shelf is full

I don't think a coach or franchise has ever been like, "Damn, what are gonna do with all these pass rushers? I wish we had fewer!"

In a purely theoretical sense, obviously a team made of 53 pass rushers won't work. In a practical sense? I've never seen it.

I think Bosa will only play 2 or 3 more years so we need a replacement anyway.

[gzubeck]

I don't think a coach or franchise has ever been like, "Damn, what are gonna do with all these pass rushers? I wish we had fewer!"

In a purely theoretical sense, obviously a team made of 53 pass rushers won't work. In a practical sense? I've never seen it.

I think Bosa will only play 2 or 3 more years so we need a replacement anyway.

I looked at his contract and he's for sure with us through 2022 season. I could see them getting pissed off at him if his production is not there after 2022 season and just outright cutting him to save $17 million and just eat the signing bonus. Joey will be worth $20 mill for most of his remaining years but paying him $30+ million is not in the cards after next season. No one will trade for such an onerous contract amount. Some of these players have become like White Elephants!

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange...42%2C250%2C000.

[beachcomber]

If you’re picking pure BPA, you use already have a SB Roster. We don’t have such a thing - #17 needs to be a starter so pick a position that needs a starter upgrade. That shouldn’t be hard - i can think of a half dozen easy

possibly MW
TE if Cook departs/is not resigned
RT if Feiler isn't moved over
LG if he is moved over to RT
Tranquill/Murray if Kyzir is not resigned
NT if Linval is not resigned
DT given that Justin Jones/Jerry are a rotation of sorts
DE if Uchenna is not resigned
CHJ

personal assessment/opinion is that slot corners are found in FA, ditto for IDL, possibly TE, def RB

the ones that are not so readily replaced/refilled via FA are a starting WR, as think we can find an affordable value @wideout if we end up having to replace Guyton, but MW will cost a day one or two pick
am not interested in another starting FA Olineman, so would be looking no later than day two for a LG/RT
don't see an overly viable option in FA @LB, and not sure I want to spend a first rounder, albeit there are later options in the draft according to many here ??
and ditto for ED as there might be an ok FA, but doubtful you can get value there, and usually there is talent day one/early day two, albeit don't want to overdraft a SupaMel that "falls" into our lap @17

so that leaves Oline and ED as the most critical, and w/WR and possibly LB as considerations if there is some FA fallout ??

am not against going CB in the draft, nor RB, TE, IOL, NT, DT, and P, as we have enough picks to pretty much cover all our needs, depthwise and otherwise

[beachcomber]

mulling over the above post, wondering who might be available @WR round three, ala Keenan, and who would provide "value" ??

and ditto for @LB round four ??

two guys that come to mind @wideout are Drake London and George Pickens, both of whom have had (rather severe) injury considerations.... chance they are there @79 ??

and does Leo Chenal hang around long enough for us to consider him @114 ?? is he too much an in the box/run defender for some teams that insist on pass coverage @LB ??

does Darrien Butler warrant consideration that early ?? is he good value @114 ??

still leaning Johnson & Johnson to start things off, albeit w/a heavy consideration/lean @WR.... to be con't,

[richpjr]

I looked at his contract and he's for sure with us through 2022 season. I could see them getting pissed off at him if his production is not there after 2022 season and just outright cutting him to save $17 million and just eat the signing bonus. Joey will be worth $20 mill for most of his remaining years but paying him $30+ million is not in the cards after next season. No one will trade for such an onerous contract amount. Some of these players have become like White Elephants!

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-ange...42%2C250%2C000.

I see no chance of this. Bosa marches to his own beat and I suspect he’ll not want long term head trauma and that will be when he decides to hang it up. But I think he is the one who will decide this.