2022 Training Camp Thread

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

100% agree but that wasnt the point being discussed about LT at all.

Go back and look at post #894. I brought up that his rookie season didn't convince me that he was elite, and that had much to do with the line in front of him.

[Charge!]

Talking about LT here in a discussion of Spiller and Kelly seems so beside the point to me. These guys aren’t LT

i mentioned him because if LT was your starting back and you happened to have a pro bowl type back on the bench, no one would know how good he is ......

my other main point is that if a RB shows nothing special his first 2 years when he was given many chances to play, then he is not a good or great NFL RB.... RB's who show nothing their first 2 years are just not great..... LT made an average OL look better than it was because he was special......one cut and he shot through small openings like a blurrr..... Kelley and Roundtree require huge holes..... which are hard to consistently come by in NFL.....

There are many teams in the NFL who have much better RB depth than Chargers had last year....that is why we spend a fairly high draft pick on Spiller who IS and NFL quality back..... Spiller was not a 6th round shot in the dark with a dart...... he was one of the very top RB's in college football..... if course no one is saying he is LT, but he should be a very solid all round productive and elusive RB, like other teams have.... Also hoping that Horvath ends up landing a spot as big power RB/FB...... so Chargers can actually run on 3rd or 4th and one and get the first down or goal line TD......and I believe he will....

[Boltjolt]

The point is, no matter how good a back is, it's really difficult for him to shine when his line stinks.

LT had 1200+ rushing yards his rookie year with a crap OL.

[Hadl2Alworth]

If you watch Kelly's college tape, he had some wide holes to run through and just was explosive enough when he didn't, but holes close faster in the NFL and his burst was just not there.

ill believe he has more burst when i see it.

Sounds good.

[powderblueboy]

NFL analysts that i happen to listen to on the radio consider Buffalo, Kansas City, and a few others as legit Super Bowl contenders,
the Chargers typically are not in that group.

One radio analyst from today said the Chargers could start off the season 0 - 2.

They seem to be flying under the radar.

[screeme18]

NFL analysts that i happen to listen to on the radio consider Buffalo, Kansas City, and a few others as legit Super Bowl contenders,
the Chargers typically are not in that group.

One radio analyst from today said the Chargers could start off the season 0 - 2.

They seem to be flying under the radar.

I think it's fair to say there are a good half dozen+ AFC teams that could make the Super Bowl. But we should be one of them. (Any AFC West team, Buffalo, Cinci, Baltimore, Tennessee... Is how I see it)

[Ghost of Quacksaw]

LT had 1200+ rushing yards his rookie year with a crap OL.

Which is why at the time, I thought he looked like a good back, not a great back. O-lines make a difference. Ask Emmitt Smith.

[blueman]

NFL analysts that i happen to listen to on the radio consider Buffalo, Kansas City, and a few others as legit Super Bowl contenders,
the Chargers typically are not in that group.

One radio analyst from today said the Chargers could start off the season 0 - 2.

They seem to be flying under the radar.

0-2 is not unreasonable. In some ways expected.

[Boltjolt]

I think we win both

[Boltdiehard]

0-2 is not unreasonable. In some ways expected.

The meltdowns including my own will be epic.

[wu-dai clan]

NFL analysts that i happen to listen to on the radio consider Buffalo, Kansas City, and a few others as legit Super Bowl contenders,
the Chargers typically are not in that group.

One radio analyst from today said the Chargers could start off the season 0 - 2.

They seem to be flying under the radar.

Best Charger defense I have ever see. 2022.

[sonorajim]

Best Charger defense I have ever see. 2022.

Sure is shaping up that way. Personnel wise today? Definitely.