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  • Xenos
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    Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

    Per TruMedia, Herbert has been pressured in 2.5 seconds or less on 28% of his drop backs. That’s the leagues HIGHEST rate!!

    Our OL continues to suck at pass and run blocking. Why can’t Telesco build even an average OL? (Ditto for DL)
    Injuries.

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    • Velo
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      Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

      Per TruMedia, Herbert has been pressured in 2.5 seconds or less on 28% of his drop backs. That’s the leagues HIGHEST rate!!

      Our OL continues to suck at pass and run blocking. Why can’t Telesco build even an average OL? (Ditto for DL)
      Injuries have taken their toll on the OL too.

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      • Velo
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        Chargers injury report


        Did not participate:
        • CB Bryce Callahan (groin)
        • S Derwin James (hip)
        • C Corey Linsley (concussion)
        • OLB Khalil Mack (rest)
        • T Trey Pipkins (knee)
        • WR Mike Williams (ankle)
        Nasir Adderely (thumb) was a limited participant

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        • Riverwalk
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          Originally posted by Xenos View Post

          Injuries.
          I think injuries to Offensive linemen are common and league wide. It happens every year for the Chargers and I recall some years under Norv, every OL was replaced and backups replaced as well.

          If it’s going to take no injuries for the Chargers to ever make the playoffs again, good luck waiting for that to happen.


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          • Velo
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            Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

            I think injuries to Offensive linemen are common and league wide. It happens every year for the Chargers and I recall some years under Norv, every OL was replaced and backups replaced as well.

            If it’s going to take no injuries for the Chargers to ever make the playoffs again, good luck waiting for that to happen.

            OL depth is a weakness that hopefully gets addressed in year 3 of the Staley era.

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            • Riverwalk
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              Originally posted by Velo View Post
              Chargers injury report


              Did not participate:
              • CB Bryce Callahan (groin)
              • S Derwin James (hip)
              • C Corey Linsley (concussion)
              • OLB Khalil Mack (rest)
              • T Trey Pipkins (knee)
              • WR Mike Williams (ankle)
              Nasir Adderely (thumb) was a limited participant
              Ironically, of all players on the team, I was most concerned about Mack’s durability this season and he’s turned out to be iron man!

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              • Velo
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                Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

                Ironically, of all players on the team, I was most concerned about Mack’s durability this season and he’s turned out to be iron man!
                Same. If anybody was going to get injured I thought it'd be Mack first.

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                • QSmokey
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                  Originally posted by Velo View Post

                  OL depth is a weakness that hopefully gets addressed in year 3 of the Staley era.
                  Hopefully there is no 'year 3 of the Staley Era' (because it's been a forgettable era so far).

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                  • BayAreaBoltz
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                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    What Lombo need to do better is get better screens and misdirections going when teams are overloading the pass rush like AZ was with 5 and 6 rushers.

                    It would help if the blockers he did have out there leading the receiver actually blocked the one fucking defender that could stop the play as well. Different topic unrelated to play calling. Not sure how many times I saw one lone defender elude two or more useless blockers to stop the receiver around the LOS.
                    On this part we definitely agree.

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                    • BayAreaBoltz
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                      Originally posted by chargeroo View Post

                      I'm not sure we did have a worse OL then. With this year's OL we can't run the ball and Herbert is often under duress. Is that better? Zion looked real good for the early games but he's gone downhill of late. Meantime we lost a pro-bowl LT and our RT is playing on a bad knee and our Center has been in and out of the lineup. We don't have a decent running game and everyone we play knows it.
                      2020: LT Sam Tevi, LG Forrest Lamp, C Dan Feeney, RG Trai Turner (9 games), RT Bryan Bulaga (10 games). (Trey Pipkins, Cole Mazza, Storm Norton, Scott Quessenberry, Tyree St. Louis)

                      2022: LT Rashawn Slater (3 games), LG Matt Feiler, C Corey Linsley (9 games, so far), RG Zion Johnson, RT Trey Pipkins (10 games, so far) (Storm Norton, Jamaree Salyer, Will Clapp, Brenden Jaimes)

                      So this year we lost Slater and inserted Salyer.

                      It's a decent argument. It seems to me that this year (w/out Slater) we're only marginally better than 2020.




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                      • jamrock
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                        Originally posted by BayAreaBoltz View Post

                        2020: LT Sam Tevi, LG Forrest Lamp, C Dan Feeney, RG Trai Turner (9 games), RT Bryan Bulaga (10 games). (Trey Pipkins, Cole Mazza, Storm Norton, Scott Quessenberry, Tyree St. Louis)

                        2022: LT Rashawn Slater (3 games), LG Matt Feiler, C Corey Linsley (9 games, so far), RG Zion Johnson, RT Trey Pipkins (10 games, so far) (Storm Norton, Jamaree Salyer, Will Clapp, Brenden Jaimes)

                        So this year we lost Slater and inserted Salyer.

                        It's a decent argument. It seems to me that this year (w/out Slater) we're only marginally better than 2020.



                        If that’s true after we invest 2 first round picks and significant FA money in Linsley then we have massive problems. Give me Scar and draft weapons

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                        • BayAreaBoltz
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                          Originally posted by jamrock View Post

                          If that’s true after we invest 2 first round picks and significant FA money in Linsley then we have massive problems. Give me Scar and draft weapons
                          One of those first round picks is currently a rookie learning the NFL. The other was an all-pro last year and was the #2 OL we could ill-afford to lose. Of course (being the Chargers) we lose HIM.

                          Linsley is the #1 OL we can't be without (and, of course, he goes down a couple of times).

                          Had we kept Slater and Linsley all year and lost, say, Fieler - we MAY have been able to weather all this better. The drop from Slater/Linsley to their backups is tremendous.

                          Chargers are snake-bit.

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