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Originally posted by sonorajim View PostChargers scoring O in '21 #4, in 22 #13
Dallas (Moore) '21 #1, '22 #4
I think we got the better OC.
Lombardi had a good base plan but struggled to make timely adjustments.
Also somehow need to make life easier for the offense. More big plays; less reliance on 3rd and 4-6 yards. I think I read the Chargers had the most 3rd downs in the NFL. Which means they had the ball a lot - but also were getting to 3rd down. I get the Chiefs are an anomaly but they were able to sometimes to just move downfield and not even get to one third down let alone multiple to finish the drive with a touchdown.
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
I think I am rolling with Pip over this guy. Good career but older and more apt to be injured. That doesn't mean Pip will be healthy next year and this guy won't be - just that the likelihood is higher for the older player
Plus Pip has gotten better over the years. Granted, Pip would be wise to test free agency -- a team like the Bears might really overpay
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Originally posted by chargeroo View Post
I still believe this team could have been in the SB if not for so many injuries to the top players on the roster. Therefore, if they could find a way to keep their best players I think they will be contenders this year. If they have to cut their best players (Allen, Mack, Bosa) they are probably the new seller dwellers of the AFCW. It all depends on how they go about fixing the salary cap problem. My hunch is that they had a two year plan when they made the FA moves last year and they'll be trying to keep the best of this roster in tact for this season.Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
The Wasted Decade is done.
Build Back Better.
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
Timely adjustments
Also somehow need to make life easier for the offense. More big plays; less reliance on 3rd and 4-6 yards. I think I read the Chargers had the most 3rd downs in the NFL. Which means they had the ball a lot - but also were getting to 3rd down. I get the Chiefs are an anomaly but they were able to sometimes to just move downfield and not even get to one third down let alone multiple to finish the drive with a touchdown.Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
The Wasted Decade is done.
Build Back Better.
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Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post
Timely adjustments. Did you see what Reid did in the SB? Philly had no idea what was happening or how to stop it. Movement and speed. It changes everything.
Bijan, Kincaid, Hyatt Flowers in R1
A guy like Reed in R2 even if you went Flowers in R1
another fast WR on day 3
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Originally posted by chargeroo View Post
Are you speaking about the same OC that had them at a top five offense the year before?
I have hopes that we've improved on the offensive (coaching) side of the ball. We had better improve - the offense will need to carry the team next year.
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Originally posted by Lefty2SLO View Post
I have no hard data to go on but my sense is that the offense (for whatever reason) was not as conservative in 21 as it was in 22. The indictment on Lombardi centers around a few points; 1) failure to maximize personnel, 2) lack of scheme and/or play design creativity, 3) poor play calling.
I have hopes that we've improved on the offensive (coaching) side of the ball. We had better improve - the offense will need to carry the team next year.Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....
"Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh
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Originally posted by gzubeck View Post
In 21' we had a very healthy Herbert and practically went for it on 4th down all the time because our defense was suspect. If we had played only three downs in 21' and punted our offensive stats would have been much worse.
going for it on 4th down. There are several possibilities. 1st and foremost injury to our WRs. Lack of continuity on the O line until late in the season. Injury to
Herbert's ribs early in the season. Lack of a run game forcing the short passing game to take it's place. Lack of a deep threat once MW was out. It's not all
on Lombo. But for sure improvement in the run game was needed and never materialized. That would have helped Herbert once all the injuries took place.Last edited by charger1_sj; 02-15-2023, 06:41 PM.
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