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2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad
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Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post
Everett is our starter. The need at TE is to get somebody way better at the next level. As rookies none of the three are. We already have a 6'8" TE. Why don't we throw 6' feet over
the DBs head so our TE can get it?
We don't need competition for Hall, we need a replacement for him. We don't know if Jackson will be coming back and what football shape he will be in even if he does
come back. We currently have 2 bonified CBs starters without Jackson in a passing league we need another. Hall isn't it.
Allen is 30 with a huge contact next year. We need to find a replacement sooner rather than later.
Mack has a huge contact next year, he did great this year but age is catching up. We need a replacement in an area where we are already weak when starters are injured.
We need a FS. Sorry to say Woods isn't it.
We don't have a legit NT. If we're going to run an effective 3/4 we need one.
O line starters are set, but the shelves are nearly empty behind them on several positions including center.
I strongly disagree that TE is a 1st round need. If TE is the BPA then yes. If not then no. There are a variety of ways we can go. Even RB if Ekeler's going to be
a problem.
This is an unusually strong TE draft. Pretty sure we take one day 1-2.
It's early. There are several players at different pos I like at 21. TE is one. DT Calijah Kancey another.
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Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
Parham's tall, not much else Washington makes some ridiculous one-handed catches plays physical. 6-6, 264, 4.6 40.
This is an unusually strong TE draft. Pretty sure we take one day 1-2.
It's early. There are several players at different pos I like at 21. TE is one. DT Calijah Kancey another.
If you like those maybe we should sign OBJ!
Let me make some corrections....good and bad.
Washington is 6'7"....not 6'6"...that's good.
Ran a 4.64, still good for his size.
Verticle was a measley 31" but again, he is 6'7".
He does have 11" hands which just might be both of mine lol. Good for not fumbling.
He can catch but don't play to his speed and wasnt that productive. Still, I have as my #3 TE behind Kincaid and Mayer. He will be popular with running teams like Baltimore and Tennessee....maybe the Raiders but can't see him going #7.Last edited by Boltjolt; 03-25-2023, 04:31 PM.
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Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
Well, he made 1, one handed catch anyways. Are there more I haven't seen?
If you like those maybe we should sign OBJ!
Let me Let me make se.corrections....good and bad.
Washington is 6'7"....not 6'6"...that's good.
Ran a 4.64, still good for his size.
Verticle was a measley 31" but again, he is 6'7".
He does have 11" hands which just might be both of mine lol. Good for not fumbling.
He can catch but don't play to his speed and wasnt that productive. Still, I have as my #3 TE behind Kincaid and Mayer. He will be popular with running teams like Baltimore and Tennessee....maybe the Raiders but can't see him going #7.
#2 TE in college, mostly blocker. I'm a fan of the 1 hand ability & huge radius. Herbert can put it wherever he wants but when things aren't perfect, tipped for example, DW can pluck it away from bad places. Two things I think he brings more and better than other TEs in combination, pass pro, run blocking and red zone target. He's not a great route runner but owns the space he's in. There's room for improvement and I have little doubt that Moore would enjoy working with him.
On the clock choices might blow me away but I'd hope to get him in 2 if that's how it goes.
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Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post
Everett is our starter. The need at TE is to get somebody way better at the next level. As rookies none of the three are. We already have a 6'8" TE. Why don't we throw 6' feet over
the DBs head so our TE can get it?
We don't need competition for Hall, we need a replacement for him. We don't know if Jackson will be coming back and what football shape he will be in even if he does
come back. We currently have 2 bonified CBs starters without Jackson in a passing league we need another. Hall isn't it.
Allen is 30 with a huge contact next year. We need to find a replacement sooner rather than later.
Mack has a huge contact next year, he did great this year but age is catching up. We need a replacement in an area where we are already weak when starters are injured.
We need a FS. Sorry to say Woods isn't it.
We don't have a legit NT. If we're going to run an effective 3/4 we need one.
O line starters are set, but the shelves are nearly empty behind them on several positions including center.
I strongly disagree that TE is a 1st round need. If TE is the BPA then yes. If not then no. There are a variety of ways we can go. Even RB if Ekeler's going to be
a problem.
Agree with not drafting a tight end in the 1rst.
On defense, look at what San Francisco always does ....... brings in defensive linemen:
Armstead, Buckner, Soloman Thomas, Bosa, Javon Kinlaw, ..... 5 out of their last 10 1rst rounders are defensive linemen.
And now they bring in Jason Hargrave.
Maybe we should emphasize that if we want a good defense? DB wasn't a problem last year and they still stunk.
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Originally posted by sonorajim View Post
LOL! Are you pretending that the starters hit the field together last year? Or that the injuries and lack of depth will be the same or worse?
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Originally posted by powderblueboy View Post
Agree with not drafting a tight end in the 1rst.
On defense, look at what San Francisco always does ....... brings in defensive linemen:
Armstead, Buckner, Soloman Thomas, Bosa, Javon Kinlaw, ..... 5 out of their last 10 1rst rounders are defensive linemen.
And now they bring in Jason Hargrave.
Maybe we should emphasize that if we want a good defense? DB wasn't a problem last year and they still stunk.
happened after Davis went out? That's why we need a CB. Jackson is not a sure thing. We also need a FS.
Unfortunately Everett in his contract year, ditto Ekeler and Allen is due big money again next year when for sure we have to sign Herbert.
So I do think we're going to spend some draft capital on offense. Just don't know if it's going to happen in the 1st.
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Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post
I'm good with drafting DL guys. BUT DB was not a problem so long as Davis was playing. Did you watch the Jags game? What
happened after Davis went out? That's why we need a CB. Jackson is not a sure thing. We also need a FS.
Unfortunately Everett in his contract year, ditto Ekeler and Allen is due big money again next year when for sure we have to sign Herbert.
So I do think we're going to spend some draft capital on offense. Just don't know if it's going to happen in the 1st.
WR with speed
TE - more than just a bunch of JAGS. I have zero idea why it was a relief Parham was brought back.
OT and OC depth Linsley not getting young
Edge: Mack and Bosa: could be on their last year
RB: Is Spiller the answer
CB: correct about JCJ as how will he recover
WR2: Allen and Williams contracts were terrible re-done - so stupid. Mind blowingly stupid
Hence, Telesco should trade back and get more picks in Rounds 2-4. My guess, he trades up for a CB or TE
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Originally posted by jamrock View Post
I have no reason to expect it will be better. May not be the same guys but every one of them has missed major parts of a season more than once. I didn’t mention James but I should have. Another overpaid underperformer with injury issues. But let’s play hardball with Ekeler and hope Bijan falls to us?
But so far, the offseason has been status quo mainly and hope to stay healthy. Granted, Telesco still has the draft to assess critical needs but up to now, we shall see.
"Its a bold strategy Cotton - we will see if it works.."
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Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post
The Chargers need
WR with speed
TE - more than just a bunch of JAGS. I have zero idea why it was a relief Parham was brought back.
OT and OC depth Linsley not getting young
Edge: Mack and Bosa: could be on their last year
RB: Is Spiller the answer
CB: correct about JCJ as how will he recover
WR2: Allen and Williams contracts were terrible re-done - so stupid. Mind blowingly stupid
Hence, Telesco should trade back and get more picks in Rounds 2-4. My guess, he trades up for a CB or TE
and burn them. You do need short area moves that gets you space.
TE I don't see any Kelce's in this years draft. There are some that can help us, but it's even doubtful any of them can un seat Everett as
rookies. Parham has been a huge disappointment. Mostly due to injuries. But we got him cheap that's why he's currently on the roster.
OT, OC and OG agree
Edge agree and it's a prime position
RB Spiller is not the answer, move on.
CB agreed
WR2 agreed, but we're stuck. We either live with the contracts or cut the cords. This could be Allen's last year.
I do not believe TT has ever traded back. But if there was ever a time, this may be it.
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Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post
WR don't care if the guy has blazing speed. He has to get separation and make catches. You don't need 4.3 speed to get behind DBs
and burn them. You do need short area moves that gets you space.
TE I don't see any Kelce's in this years draft. There are some that can help us, but it's even doubtful any of them can un seat Everett as
rookies. Parham has been a huge disappointment. Mostly due to injuries. But we got him cheap that's why he's currently on the roster.
OT, OC and OG agree
Edge agree and it's a prime position
RB Spiller is not the answer, move on.
CB agreed
WR2 agreed, but we're stuck. We either live with the contracts or cut the cords. This could be Allen's last year.
I do not believe TT has ever traded back. But if there was ever a time, this may be it.
Who knows, if we get one early maybe they can thrive in the second half of the season but if we get a mid rounder, cool too. As you said Parham is meh but can block.
Then...with no major holes, we can be ALL IN for Bowers in 2024 which would be awesomeness imo.
Bowers is a complete package TE.
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