2023 Official Roster Build Thread - The Initial 53 / Practice Squad

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  • Bolt4Knob
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    Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

    I wouldn't do it. Juedy is injured too much and I'm not helping a rival get better.
    I am not concerned about making the Broncos better if it makes the Chargers better
    Just not sure Jeudy is the right WR for the Chargers - besides the injury concern - does he add what the offense needs outside
    There are worse deals I am sure for Ekeler out there

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    • Formula 21
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      Originally posted by richpjr View Post
      Encouraging to see Sarell working with the big boys:

      My confidence in Sarell just went way up. He’s got natural talent, he just needs to improve his technique.

      And Slater is the gift that keeps on giving. He’s now got Pipkins and Sarell getting top notch training.
      Now, if you excuse me, I have some Charger memories to suppress.
      The Wasted Decade is done.
      Build Back Better.

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

        My confidence in Sarell just went way up. He’s got natural talent, he just needs to improve his technique.

        And Slater is the gift that keeps on giving. He’s now got Pipkins and Sarell getting top notch training.
        If Sarell is a quality back up OT - that is a pretty big time result.

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        • Velo
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          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

          I am not concerned about making the Broncos better if it makes the Chargers better
          Just not sure Jeudy is the right WR for the Chargers - besides the injury concern - does he add what the offense needs outside
          There are worse deals I am sure for Ekeler out there
          Look at the vid from Chargers @ Broncos from Jan. I feel like Jeudy is starting to emerge, he'll be 24 this season and could be just starting to blossom. Against the Chargers, he caught 5 of his 6 targets for 154 yds - 31 yds per. He got deep and caught long balls. He took WR screens for long gains. He carried the ball 3 times for 39 yds. He has some injury history, but he played in 15 of 17 games last year. Even with the dysfunction at QB, he had 954 yds receiving and scored 6 TDs. A team that has him could be getting a top WR talent just as he's entering his prime. I'd love to see him catching passes from Herbert.

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          • Topcat
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            Originally posted by Formula 21 View Post

            My confidence in Sarell just went way up. He’s got natural talent, he just needs to improve his technique.

            And Slater is the gift that keeps on giving. He’s now got Pipkins and Sarell getting top notch training.
            Sarell in college was considered the cream of the crop...hopefully he realizes his full potential...

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            • Xenos
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              Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

              Is there a link to that interview?
              Here’s a portion of Telesco’s interview today.
              Telesco reiterated Brandon Staley's comments about wanting Austin Ekeler back, says Jamaree Salyer will play right guard.


              4. The Chargers have the 21st pick in the first round. When asked about the possibility of trading back to accrue additional picks, Telesco said the Chargers “typically” have first-round grades on 16 to 19 players.

              “Certainly when you’re in that late first, there’s probably a little bit more of a thought,” Telesco added of trading back from 21. “Essentially at that point you’re taking a player that at least you have graded as a second-round player. That’s all really subjective. But if you can trade back a little bit and pick up a pick and still get maybe even the same player or close to the same player, then it’s a pretty good deal to do.”

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              • sonorajim
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                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                Totally agree. Have mentioned if Top 15 talent is on the board at 21, as long as not QB - take the player

                But what if, there are a group of players with similar grades. Like the TEs, WRs and Edge - there might be a cluster where the rankings of 20 to 30 are pretty close. Meaning the top 15 - there is a cut off - than the next group and finally 20 to 30. If there is a distinct star player - sure. But if the rankings are tight enough - go for the good quantity of TWO players over one player

                We agree - if you have a top 12-15 player left on your board - you cannot turn that talent down. But at 21 - its not like a top 10 pick - have no idea if a star or not. And in this draft - with what seems to be clusters of TEs, Edges and WRs - I would rather get two solid players.
                I'm not a fan of quantity over quality. The idea that we can't find a quality talent that will improve the 2023 Chargers with pick 21 seems ludicrous. Being indifferent as to who you'd want among, say, the next 5 seems like a failure in scouting.

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                • richpjr
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                  Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                  I'm not a fan of quantity over quality. The idea that we can't find a quality talent that will improve the 2023 Chargers with pick 21 seems ludicrous.
                  Since a large number of draft picks will not live up to expectations, there is a lot of merit to quantity, especially if you are not in a position to pick a "can't miss" prospect early.

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                    I'm not a fan of quantity over quality. The idea that we can't find a quality talent that will improve the 2023 Chargers with pick 21 seems ludicrous. Being indifferent as to who you'd want among, say, the next 5 seems like a failure in scouting.
                    I am a data guy -- so I think analytically
                    If I see three TEs with scores of 5.9, 5.87 and 5.83, and they all fit the offence being ran and I can make a trade back and get another pick and still get the guy with a score of 5.83
                    I think if you can get a valued player plus another top 100 pick - your team is deeper and better

                    TElesco said it above - the cut off is 16 to 19 usually. So if the cut off this year is closer to 16 - that changes the players and the rankings

                    Chargers need a helluva lot. This idea they are the 21st pick away is nonsensical to me
                    They need WRs and Edge (plural for both), probably a RB with some juice and sizzle, TE, maybe CB, OT depth (always) and OC

                    Thats 10 players - aren't filling all of those with 5th -7th rounders and a bunch of UDFAs.

                    Also with two Edge and two WRs and their contract status - get those players in this year not next year


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                    • charger1_sj
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                      Originally posted by sonorajim View Post

                      I'm not a fan of quantity over quality. The idea that we can't find a quality talent that will improve the 2023 Chargers with pick 21 seems ludicrous. Being indifferent as to who you'd want among, say, the next 5 seems like a failure in scouting.
                      You may not be thinking straight. If there are no clear differences in talent between #21 and #41 you trade down if you can. If TT is correct (I myself said 15-20 blue chippers in this draft), then trading down is an option. If you want the clear cut blue chip guy then you trade up at the expense of blowing up the draft. Not a good idea for a team that has needs for players at different positions.

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                      • Bolt4Knob
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                        Originally posted by richpjr View Post

                        Since a large number of draft picks will not live up to expectations, there is a lot of merit to quantity, especially if you are not in a position to pick a "can't miss" prospect early.
                        Thats it. If a player drops for some reason - and they are in your Tier 1 Top 15 bucket of players - of course take the player
                        if not, I want more picks as some will flame out

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                        • Bolt4Knob
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                          Originally posted by charger1_sj View Post

                          You may not be thinking straight. If there are no clear differences in talent between #21 and #41 you trade down if you can. If TT is correct (I myself said 15-20 blue chippers in this draft), then trading down is an option. If you want the clear cut blue chip guy then you trade up at the expense of blowing up the draft. Not a good idea for a team that has needs for players at different positions.
                          And this would for sure be a draft day trade just in case that unique talent does drop to 21

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