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  • WindsorUK
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    • Jul 2013
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    Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

    I'd still take him back if he's come to his senses and signs a reasonable extension for two years. With a reasonable oline his skill set is still above most players in the NFL. I'm just not going to break the bank for him either.
    Austin would be an ideal 3rd down back for us....if only we had a 1st and 2nd down RB to go with him.

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    • Lefty2SLO
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      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post
      Need this guy back and the DC to get him back there. You know, they guy someone said has never made any game changing plays.


      He hasn't - not in the last couple of years. I never said that he never did though . . . . . . . . . . Staley didn't do him any favors either - IMO Derwin was asked to cover up a multitude of sins on the defensive side of the ball, similar to how Herbert was required to mask the failures on the offensive side.

      Ultimately this philosophy is unsustainable. No-one can be all world enough to carry an entire team for long. IMO this is a significant factor in both Herbert and James's decline - at some point the pressure gets to be too much. Look no further than Patrick Mahomes for validation. KC's offense (and Mahomes) are not nearly what they've been in the past, due mainly to the fact that their receivers (outside of Kelce) are not very good.

      There's simply a limit to how much 'bad' a really good player can mask, and for how long, particularly if poor coaching is thrown into the mix. Football's called the ultimate team sport for a reason . . . . . . . . . and the 'team' includes the coaching staff and GM.

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      • Lefty2SLO
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        Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

        I'd still take him back if he's come to his senses and signs a reasonable extension for two years. With a reasonable oline his skill set is still above most players in the NFL. I'm just not going to break the bank for him either.
        Not me . . . . . . . . . . Austin was never an outstanding RUNNER. He was an good all around back who had a nose for the end zone and was an excellent receiving threat . . . . . . . . a poor mans Christian McCafferty if you will. But not anymore. We need to move on - turn the page on our older, injury prone and entitled veterans . . . . . . . . . we need younger, hungrier, cheaper, and more durable players at many positions.

        We also MUST GET a Sean Payton type coach who will not accept mediocrity and poor play from anyone, damn the contract, damn the draft position . . . . . . .

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        • Boltjolt
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          • Jun 2013
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          Originally posted by Lefty2SLO View Post

          He hasn't - not in the last couple of years. I never said that he never did though . . . . . . . . . . Staley didn't do him any favors either - IMO Derwin was asked to cover up a multitude of sins on the defensive side of the ball, similar to how Herbert was required to mask the failures on the offensive side.

          Ultimately this philosophy is unsustainable. No-one can be all world enough to carry an entire team for long. IMO this is a significant factor in both Herbert and James's decline - at some point the pressure gets to be too much. Look no further than Patrick Mahomes for validation. KC's offense (and Mahomes) are not nearly what they've been in the past, due mainly to the fact that their receivers (outside of Kelce) are not very good.

          There's simply a limit to how much 'bad' a really good player can mask, and for how long, particularly if poor coaching is thrown into the mix. Football's called the ultimate team sport for a reason . . . . . . . . . and the 'team' includes the coaching staff and GM.
          Key word is EVER! And it wasnt you.

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          • Lefty2SLO
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            Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post

            Austin would be an ideal 3rd down back for us....if only we had a 1st and 2nd down RB to go with him.
            Actually . . . . . . . . I agree with this!! As long as his contract was equal to his contributions . . . . . . . .

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            • gzubeck
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              Originally posted by Lefty2SLO View Post

              Not me . . . . . . . . . . Austin was never an outstanding RUNNER. He was an good all around back who had a nose for the end zone and was an excellent receiving threat . . . . . . . . a poor mans Christian McCafferty if you will. But not anymore. We need to move on - turn the page on our older, injury prone and entitled veterans . . . . . . . . . we need younger, hungrier, cheaper, and more durable players at many positions.

              We also MUST GET a Sean Payton type coach who will not accept mediocrity and poor play from anyone, damn the contract, damn the draft position . . . . . . .
              Not a good year to move on unless there is a free agent you like. I'm open to suggestions...
              Chiefs won the Superbowl with 10 Rookies....

              "Locked, Cocked, and ready to Rock!" Jim Harbaugh

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              • Lefty2SLO
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                Originally posted by gzubeck View Post

                Not a good year to move on unless there is a free agent you like. I'm open to suggestions...
                I'm not the guy to know who's good (and who's not), nor am I a draft guy - don't have the time. There are always gems out there though - we just need to be good enough (or lucky enough) to find them . . . . . . Que the new GM . . . . . .

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                • Ghost of Quacksaw
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                  For anybody wondering if C.J. Okoye was still in the building...


                  Chargers' international player from Nigeria is having the ride of his life (msn.com)
                  Last edited by Ghost of Quacksaw; 12-29-2023, 04:53 AM.

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                  • NOrvMeNow
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                    Odds for NFL defensive rookie of the year from FOX sports: two of the 10 play against Denver this week.
                    -10000 Cardinals (Sunday, December 31)
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                    +3000 Steelers (Sunday, December 31)
                    +5000 Bills (Sunday, December 31)
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                    +15000 Falcons (Sunday, December 31)

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                    • Topcat
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                      Originally posted by Lefty2SLO View Post

                      Actually . . . . . . . . I agree with this!! As long as his contract was equal to his contributions . . . . . . . .
                      I'm afraid Ekkie got a bit prideful earlier this season...all the talk about RB's being underpaid...let the market decide...he may already be on the decline anyways, so now we let him go and we might get a 5th round comp pick for him...I don't think he's going to get near the bucks he thinks he's worth in FA...IMHO he's suffering from the Moaning Mel Syndrome...

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                      • Bolt4Knob
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                        Originally posted by WindsorUK View Post

                        Austin would be an ideal 3rd down back for us....if only we had a 1st and 2nd down RB to go with him.
                        Touche! Well played

                        As for Ekeler - I think it will be time to part company with him and he should leave the Chargers. First, he is going to cost probably in the 4-5m AAV range and there will be positions the Chargers need to spend closer to $2 this coming year. Second, they truly need a number 1 RB. Kelley, not sure he is it. SPiller, probably not. Ekeler is a fine 3rd down back but the Chargers need a 1st and 2nd down back and for 3rd down, find a veteran for cheap

                        I am fine if the entire RB is turned upside down and they bring in some speed as well.

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                        • Lefty2SLO
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                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                          I'm afraid Ekkie got a bit prideful earlier this season...all the talk about RB's being underpaid...let the market decide...he may already be on the decline anyways, so now we let him go and we might get a 5th round comp pick for him...I don't think he's going to get near the bucks he thinks he's worth in FA...IMHO he's suffering from the Moaning Mel Syndrome...
                          Not ANYWHERE near the $$$'s he thinks he's worth . . . . . . . . . . . . . he looks like a horses ass right now

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