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  • richpjr
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    #73
    Originally posted by captaind View Post
    Second place is the first loser. This is why you fail, Luke.
    So by this analysis, no player from any other school than Georgia should have been drafted? Umm....

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    • electricgold
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      #74
      Originally posted by Tol View Post
      The Chargers earned an A- from PFF for their draft:

      We're going to need close to 900 receiving yards and at the very least 5 TD's from QJ * & We are going to need close to 9 sacks from the nations leading sack leader in college this season. . .

      Anything less probably won't be good enough for what this team needed going into this draft to try and overtake KC the Bills and Cincy. Sigh and the jags.

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      • SuperCharged
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        #75
        Originally posted by electricgold View Post

        We're going to need close to 900 receiving yards and at the very least 5 TD's from QJ * & We are going to need close to 9 sacks from the nations leading sack leader in college this season. . .

        Anything less probably won't be good enough for what this team needed going into this draft to try and overtake KC the Bills and Cincy. Sigh and the jags.
        I am sure there are plenty of seats on the their bandwagon. Get up and get a new seat. Because KC, Buffalo, Cincy, and the Jags are just so special. Then you can spread some positive energy rather than just rag on how poor the Chargers are.

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        • Boltjolt
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          #76
          Originally posted by electricgold View Post

          We're going to need close to 900 receiving yards and at the very least 5 TD's from QJ * & We are going to need close to 9 sacks from the nations leading sack leader in college this season. . .

          Anything less probably won't be good enough for what this team needed going into this draft to try and overtake KC the Bills and Cincy. Sigh and the jags.
          Those random stats from rookies that won't start are the key to our success? Well, there's a good chance they don't meet them and I still think we will be a good team lol.

          What if Tuli has 4 sacks and Bosa has 15 and Mack has 9?

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          • electricgold
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            #77
            Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

            Those random stats from rookies that won't start are the key to our success? Well, there's a good chance they don't meet them and I still think we will be a good team lol.

            What if Tuli has 4 sacks and Bosa has 15 and Mack has 9?
            Random stats? Well Ceedee Lamb's stats his rookie season in Moore's offense Rec 74 YDS 935 TD 5 ... 9 sacks from the nations sack leader seems about right.

            We need production and Tuli needs to be a productive player or its a wasted pick. We could of signed a random vet FA if we wanted 4 sacks. A good team? How do you define a good team?

            Leslie Oneal 12 sacks his rookie season. Chris Mims 10 sacks his rookie season. Shawn Merriman 10 sacks rookie season, Burt Grossman 10 sacks rookie season....9 sacks from Tuli is a reasonable number.
            Last edited by electricgold; 05-04-2023, 08:01 PM.

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            • electricgold
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              #78
              Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post

              I am sure there are plenty of seats on the their bandwagon. Get up and get a new seat. Because KC, Buffalo, Cincy, and the Jags are just so special. Then you can spread some positive energy rather than just rag on how poor the Chargers are.
              Calm down and stop acting childish.

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              • Boltjolt
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                #79
                Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                Random stats? Well Ceedee Lamb's stats his rookie season in Moore's offense Rec 74 YDS 935 TD 5 ... 9 sacks from the nations sack leader seems about right.

                We need production and Tuli needs to be a productive player or its a wasted pick. We could of signed a random vet FA if we wanted 4 sacks. A good team? How do you define a good team?

                Leslie Oneal 12 sacks his rookie season. Chris Mims 10 sacks his rookie season. Shawn Merriman 10 sacks rookie season, Burt Grossman 10 sacks rookie season....9 sacks from Tuli is a reasonable number.
                If you think Tuli is going to start over Bosa and Mack you are dilusional. Only if one gets hurt will be start. He will be rotated in til that happens or maybe at times they move Bosa inside to get Tuli on the field.

                I don't care what others did as Rookies, Tuli isn't going to start. O'Neal and those others came in on a shitty team and started right away. Except Merriman who didn't start til week 5.

                Lamb didn't have a Keenan Allen or Mike a Williams on his team. He will no doubt get snaps but he isn't going to be WR1 or 2....or even 3 to start the season.

                They aren't wasted picks, there aren't many positions on this team that have starter openings.
                Murray can be beat our because he isn't a quality stater.

                And yes GOOD TEAM, that had a lot of injuries to starters and the team lacked depth.amd still made the playoffs.

                If Tuli gets 9 sacks then great but I'm not expecting it. None of those guys above had pro bowlers in front of them on the depth chart and they were all 1st round picks.

                The depth got better. The OC is much better and more importantly, our QB doesn't have broken rib cartilage any longer.

                Sorry, your post just sounded like something Chain would say. Again stats are great but they don't tell the whole story.
                Last edited by Boltjolt; 05-05-2023, 05:47 AM.

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                • SuperCharged
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                  #80
                  Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                  Calm down and stop acting childish.
                  Ohhh the irony

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                  • SuperCharged
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                    #81
                    Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                    Random stats? Well Ceedee Lamb's stats his rookie season in Moore's offense Rec 74 YDS 935 TD 5 ... 9 sacks from the nations sack leader seems about right.

                    We need production and Tuli needs to be a productive player or its a wasted pick. We could of signed a random vet FA if we wanted 4 sacks. A good team? How do you define a good team?

                    Leslie Oneal 12 sacks his rookie season. Chris Mims 10 sacks his rookie season. Shawn Merriman 10 sacks rookie season, Burt Grossman 10 sacks rookie season....9 sacks from Tuli is a reasonable number.
                    You are comparing apples to hamburger. Cowboys situations are not Chargers situations. Cowboy personnel are not Chargers personnel.

                    Comparing Tuli to old NFL era Chargers is silly. All those players you listed didn't have Bosa and Mack in front of them on the depth chart. Completely irrelevant argument. And Merriman was so jacked up on steroids that is an invalid reference.

                    You have some strange takes for sure.

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                    • electricgold
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                      #82
                      Originally posted by Boltjolt View Post

                      If you think Tuli is going to start over Bosa and Mack you are dilusional. Only if one gets hurt will be start. He will be rotated in til that happens or maybe at times they move Bosa inside to get Tuli on the field.

                      I don't care what others did as Rookies, Tuli isn't going to start. O'Neal and those others came in on a shitty team and started right away. Except Merriman who didn't start til week 5.

                      Lamb didn't have a Keenan Allen or Mike a Williams on his team. He will no doubt get snaps but he isn't going to be WR1 or 2....or even 3 to start the season.

                      They aren't wasted picks, there aren't many positions on this team that have starter openings.
                      Murray can be beat our because he isn't a quality stater.

                      And yes GOOD TEAM, that had a lot of injuries to starters and the team lacked depth.amd still made the playoffs.

                      If Tuli gets 9 sacks then great but I'm not expecting it. None of those guys above had pro bowlers in front of them on the depth chart and they were all 1st round picks.

                      The depth got better. The OC is much better and more importantly, our QB doesn't have broken rib cartilage any longer.

                      Sorry, your post just sounded like something Chain would say. Again stats are great but they don't tell the whole story.
                      What are you talking about? QJ in Moore's Offense is listed as a starting WR... His offense uses 3 WR's sets and QJ is listed as 1 of the 3 starters. Tuli will be rotated in and 9 sacks in 17 games seems outlandish to you? Not stats, production.

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                      • electricgold
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                        #83
                        Originally posted by SuperCharged View Post

                        You are comparing apples to hamburger. Cowboys situations are not Chargers situations. Cowboy personnel are not Chargers personnel.

                        Comparing Tuli to old NFL era Chargers is silly. All those players you listed didn't have Bosa and Mack in front of them on the depth chart. Completely irrelevant argument. And Merriman was so jacked up on steroids that is an invalid reference.

                        You have some strange takes for sure.
                        Your takes are stranger.

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                        • Boltjolt
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                          #84
                          Originally posted by electricgold View Post

                          What are you talking about? QJ in Moore's Offense is listed as a starting WR... His offense uses 3 WR's sets and QJ is listed as 1 of the 3 starters. Tuli will be rotated in and 9 sacks in 17 games seems outlandish to you? Not stats, production.
                          We'll see. If he is WR #3 then great but if Keenan is healthy he will get the majority of the targets. I just think your expectations are high.
                          Tuli will not start over Bosa or Mack. Just won't unless there is a injury ,....which there is a decent chance of that happening going by Bosa's history.

                          Don't expect so much and you won't be disappointed and call them wasted picks lol. There are probowlers ahead of thos guys.

                          I expect breakouts in 2024 with good contributions this season from where they stand.

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