Offensive Line Discussion

[powderblueboy]

Pouncey is probably done & Okung is near the end. What is there going forward?

Forrest Lamp: proved that he belongs as a starter, provided he can stay on the field. The ankle injury was a fluke and he should be ready to go start of next season. No nonsense about him fighting for a job like last time.

Scott Quessenberry: has done better than expected, but team doesn't know what it has with him. Other teams are evaluating his weaknesses at this point.

Dan Feeney: after 3 years still a question mark; needs to get stronger - overpowered by PJ Hall on 3rd and 1. Would have been helped with competent OT. Probably won't be resigned.

Mike Schofield: might bring back because of other needs....far from ideal. Better off looking for a veteran upgrade in free agency, particularly if Q starts next year.

Trevor Scott: a poor backup...not NFL ready and probably never will be

Sam Tevi: a very low end starting RT.....very low end. Struggles in his back pedal and poor hand usage with poor awareness of space and positioning. People like his run blocking and have suggested moving him to guard....probably fails there.

Trey Pipkens: He's gotten noticeably bigger since being drafted. He will be their starter at one of the tackle positions next year.


Verdict: team could get by with doing nothing (& praying) if Okung returns next year. Pipkens and Lamp will be an upgrade...Q will be a downgrade. Chargers will probably draft in the mid teens: i'm guessing they go with a qb and attempt to resign Rivers to a 2 year deal. Future of left tackle position will continue to remain uncertain.

[Classic]

Pouncey is probably done & Okung is near the end. What is there going forward?

Forrest Lamp: proved that he belongs as a starter, provided he can stay on the field. The ankle injury was a fluke and he should be ready to go start of next season. No nonsense about him fighting for a job like last time.

Scott Quessenberry: has done better than expected, but team doesn't know what it has with him. Other teams are evaluating his weaknesses at this point.

Dan Feeney: after 3 years still a question mark; needs to get stronger - overpowered by PJ Hall on 3rd and 1. Would have been helped with competent OT. Probably won't be resigned.

Mike Schofield: might bring back because of other needs....far from ideal. Better off looking for a veteran upgrade in free agency, particularly if Q starts next year.

Trevor Scott: a poor backup...not NFL ready and probably never will be

Sam Tevi: a very low end starting RT.....very low end. Struggles in his back pedal and poor hand usage with poor awareness of space and positioning. People like his run blocking and have suggested moving him to guard....probably fails there.

Trey Pipkens: He's gotten noticeably bigger since being drafted. He will be their starter at one of the tackle positions next year.


Verdict: team could get by with doing nothing (& praying) if Okung returns next year. Pipkens and Lamp will be an upgrade...Q will be a downgrade. Chargers will probably draft in the mid teens: i'm guessing they go with a qb and attempt to resign Rivers to a 2 year deal. Future of left tackle position will continue to remain uncertain.

No free agency targets that can help? Possible trade with Washington for Williams would solve ton of our problems

[wu-dai clan]

No free agency targets that can help? Possible trade with Washington for Williams would solve ton of our problems

Scherff is an FA too.
Doubt they can retain him.
I want a starting Olineman round two
plus a prized UFA, dammit.

[PMR9FAN]

Pouncey is probably done & Okung is near the end. What is there going forward?

Forrest Lamp: proved that he belongs as a starter, provided he can stay on the field. The ankle injury was a fluke and he should be ready to go start of next season. No nonsense about him fighting for a job like last time.

Scott Quessenberry: has done better than expected, but team doesn't know what it has with him. Other teams are evaluating his weaknesses at this point.

Dan Feeney: after 3 years still a question mark; needs to get stronger - overpowered by PJ Hall on 3rd and 1. Would have been helped with competent OT. Probably won't be resigned.

Mike Schofield: might bring back because of other needs....far from ideal. Better off looking for a veteran upgrade in free agency, particularly if Q starts next year.

Trevor Scott: a poor backup...not NFL ready and probably never will be

Sam Tevi: a very low end starting RT.....very low end. Struggles in his back pedal and poor hand usage with poor awareness of space and positioning. People like his run blocking and have suggested moving him to guard....probably fails there.

Trey Pipkens: He's gotten noticeably bigger since being drafted. He will be their starter at one of the tackle positions next year.


Verdict: team could get by with doing nothing (& praying) if Okung returns next year. Pipkens and Lamp will be an upgrade...Q will be a downgrade. Chargers will probably draft in the mid teens: i'm guessing they go with a qb and attempt to resign Rivers to a 2 year deal. Future of left tackle position will continue to remain uncertain.

Good luck to your new QB behind that line.

[Fleet]

They just extended Pouncey for next year. And despite his dead hit being fairly low....i doubt they let him go. Fuck they kept Travis Benjamin.

[Boltjolt]

My point was that its a lot easier to find a solid/decent NFL DT than RT; and if your qb is Rivers, its imperative that you go out and find one (or spend big bucks in free agency). The Chargers alone have 3 - 4 decent inexpensive DTs, but zero decent, healthy OTs. TT has had opportunities to upgrade the position, but he's basically ignored it after drafting Fluker. I liked Will Richardson - the alcoholic; I liked Daryl Williams a few years before Richardson: both 4rth round picks, both clearly better than Scott or Tevi, One can get by without investing a first round pick there & it is foolish to depend on raw converted DTs and rookie free agents from Alabama St.. Telesco just never pulls the trigger, and when he finally does, its a strange decision. He could have gotten Chuma Edoga with the Pipkens pick - the Jets are very happy with Edoga. They could have chosen David Edwards in the 5th and he would have been a definite upgrade.

Don't think I'd agree with that. Fluker was slated by many to be a OG.

DTs can be a crap shoot and also be overdrafted.

[powderblueboy]

Don't think I'd agree with that. Fluker was slated by many to be a OG.

DTs can be a crap shoot and also be overdrafted.

I didn't mean star DTs who wreck offensive lines and who you hope to draft in the first round, I mean solid DTs who do their job with out exposing the whole defense. Solid 1 techs like Sylvester Williams or Danny Shelton are just sitting out there each year, and getting a solid 3 tech isn't that far behind in availability. But how many solid RTs are there? The league trends more towards Sam Tevi's than it does Lane Johnsons: guys who need constant help & their backups are disasters that can wreck the entire offense.

If both are a need, and your qb is Phillip Rivers, and your choice at draft time is between an RT and another position group, who does Telesco always choose? He really never has drafted an RT in his life: Fluker's skill set being OG, and Tevi's being DT.

[powderblueboy]

They just extended Pouncey for next year. And despite his dead hit being fairly low....i doubt they let him go. Fuck they kept Travis Benjamin.

Pouncey's neck injury sounds like he's done. Chargers and him might reach a buyout and he retires.

Is that still possible? They did it with Fouts.

[powderblueboy]

No free agency targets that can help? Possible trade with Washington for Williams would solve ton of our problems

I mentioned that Schofield's contract is up and it would behoove them to spend money & look for an upgrade to station next to Quessenberry.

I also expressed what they typically do - resign Schofield another two years and fill other holes.


I think the time has come to grab a qb. Lots of OTs will be available in the 2nd round and they'd probably miss out on Wirfs in the first.

I like Eason, he'll probably be available, he has the bloodlines and the production at Washington...go get him. They might resign Rivers two more years
and let him take the beating (while he grooms Eason) as an organizational parting gift. That's the Spanos way.

wudai would trade up for Wirfs... i'd have no problem with that

[Formula 21]

Pouncey is probably done & Okung is near the end. What is there going forward?

Forrest Lamp: proved that he belongs as a starter, provided he can stay on the field. The ankle injury was a fluke and he should be ready to go start of next season. No nonsense about him fighting for a job like last time.

Scott Quessenberry: has done better than expected, but team doesn't know what it has with him. Other teams are evaluating his weaknesses at this point.

Dan Feeney: after 3 years still a question mark; needs to get stronger - overpowered by PJ Hall on 3rd and 1. Would have been helped with competent OT. Probably won't be resigned.

Mike Schofield: might bring back because of other needs....far from ideal. Better off looking for a veteran upgrade in free agency, particularly if Q starts next year.

Trevor Scott: a poor backup...not NFL ready and probably never will be

Sam Tevi: a very low end starting RT.....very low end. Struggles in his back pedal and poor hand usage with poor awareness of space and positioning. People like his run blocking and have suggested moving him to guard....probably fails there.

Trey Pipkens: He's gotten noticeably bigger since being drafted. He will be their starter at one of the tackle positions next year.


Verdict: team could get by with doing nothing (& praying) if Okung returns next year. Pipkens and Lamp will be an upgrade...Q will be a downgrade. Chargers will probably draft in the mid teens: i'm guessing they go with a qb and attempt to resign Rivers to a 2 year deal. Future of left tackle position will continue to remain uncertain.

I agree that you have to work with the players you have. But you have to continually bring in new talent and a lot of it has to come from the top of the draft.

[Boltjolt]

I didn't mean star DTs who wreck offensive lines and who you hope to draft in the first round, I mean solid DTs who do their job with out exposing the whole defense. Solid 1 techs like Sylvester Williams or Danny Shelton are just sitting out there each year, and getting a solid 3 tech isn't that far behind in availability. But how many solid RTs are there? The league trends more towards Sam Tevi's than it does Lane Johnsons: guys who need constant help & their backups are disasters that can wreck the entire offense.

If both are a need, and your qb is Phillip Rivers, and your choice at draft time is between an RT and another position group, who does Telesco always choose? He really never has drafted an RT in his life: Fluker's skill set being OG, and Tevi's being DT.

Sylvester hasn't been the player he was thought to be and has bounced around a little and Sheldon has been meh for what he was projected to be. For the cheap though, worth the chance.

I think you can blame OT developement in college on schemes.
As for the Tevis vs Lane Johnson's....there aren't near as .any Johnson's out there as there are Tevis.

If you aren't picking early you have to trade up for the Johnsons or get lucky someone calls. Cajuste went round 3 but he is out for the year so who knows how good he will be yet. Wynn has been injured his 2 seasons.

Every draft is a crap shoot. Many more that don't plan out than those that do.

[SDBORN]

They just extended Pouncey for next year. And despite his dead hit being fairly low....i doubt they let him go. Fuck they kept Travis Benjamin.

This off season has been a disaster on so many levels.