Offensive Line Discussion

[NoMoreChillies]

The lack of rushing attempts in the second half really pissed me off, especially since we were struggling so badly in pass protection and Rivers was not on. Gordon had 18 rushes for 96 yards at halftime and only 4 carries in the second half. Why???

What improvement have you seen from our young olinemen to warrant wanting Meyer back?

4 carries in 2nd half is just plain bad playcalling. I thought they got rid of the bad playcaller?

[richpjr]

The offensive lines are crushing the hopes of both Los Angeles teams

The Chargers played Thursday night, and their poor offensive line was on full display. They lead the league with 147 pressures allowed through 10 weeks, and this week’s effort got to quarterback Philip Rivers like few others as he finished just 1-for-10 with three interceptions and five sacks on his 15 pressured dropbacks. As for the Rams, quarterback Jared Goff posted a passer rating of just 37.2 to go with four sacks on his 16 pressured dropbacks against the Steelers, and he’s now faced the seventh-highest percentage of pressure this season after ranking 26th in that department a year ago.

[powderblueboy]

The offensive lines are crushing the hopes of both Los Angeles teams

The Chargers played Thursday night, and their poor offensive line was on full display. They lead the league with 147 pressures allowed through 10 weeks, and this week’s effort got to quarterback Philip Rivers like few others as he finished just 1-for-10 with three interceptions and five sacks on his 15 pressured dropbacks. As for the Rams, quarterback Jared Goff posted a passer rating of just 37.2 to go with four sacks on his 16 pressured dropbacks against the Steelers, and he’s now faced the seventh-highest percentage of pressure this season after ranking 26th in that department a year ago.

147 pressures on 364 throws means Rivers is pressured on 40% of his throws.

A lot of those passes are screens and quick hitters: its probably 50% +

:fight:

I already mentioned they need this cat on the Oline. Scott should study him, and study him, and study him with his hand usage.

[wu-dai clan]

147 pressures on 364 throws means Rivers is pressured on 40% of his throws.

A lot of those passes are screens and quick hitters: its probably 50% +

:fight:

I already mentioned they need this cat on the Oline. Scott should study him, and study him, and study him with his hand usage.

I give up on Scott...his hand usage is nonexistant.

The big problem with "draft several Olinemen" thinking,
is that Day one starter capable draftees are rare,
and we need talent much more than depth.

What I am trying to say is that our available useful options
only include trading up for a blue chipper,
overpaying like crazy for someone
or overpaying somewhat for a mediocre vet,
one who would at least be better than Tevi.

PFF mentioned Dennis Kelly from TEN.
Also mentioned was that TEN could easily let Conklin go ($$$ & risky)
and resign Kelly for value and cap health.

You see, we have to be specific and realistic.
Do not just throw away players who still may develop,
but in the mean time at least have had snaps as pros.

Can't fans see that there is scarcity,
the injury factor,
a narrow path to player development,
and league wide issues at Oline ?,
even for several teams who have invested heavily at Oline.

If we tear it down
and go for a complete rebuild,
that would have to involve the end of Rivers as a Charger.

So right now, my vote is for Leatherwood--
experience inside and outside--won't get Rivers killed in Pass Pro.
I like Wirfs a lot but be he will be gone.

Think. Research. Don't just vent.

Thank you.

/rant.

[like54ninjas]

2020 looks like a pretty deep class of OL with upto about 10-14 OT in the top 100.

[powderblueboy]

A realistic option is Pipkens starting next year (allowing for more development & strength in the offseason).
I honestly liked him last Thursday (based on how far he has come since his implosion in preseason). I welcome all commentary!!!
:freakout:

Lamp is another realistic option as a solid starter. He's been unfortunate - not made of glass.

Okung probably will come back....a draftee probably won't be thrown into the fire immediately.

Splurge on a quality free agent interior player....

Double dip with offensive linemen in the draft early....improve depth. A tackle should be drafted in the 1rst or 2nd round.

At center, Pouncey/Quessenberry/Feeney...one will pull through.

No need to panic!

[NoMoreChillies]

Okung-Lamp-Quessenberry-rookie/Vet FA-Pipkins?

As much as i love Pouncey, with a neck injury and the position he plays getting hit in that area every down i doubt he returns.

[wu-dai clan]

Okung-Lamp-Quessenberry-rookie/Vet FA-Pipkins?

As much as i love Pouncey, with a neck injury and the position he plays getting hit in that area every down i doubt he returns.

Generally agree.
Gonna get specific.
Gone. Trent Scott. Michael Schofield.
Grab. Rookie right side player. UFA. $$. Overpay for midlevel experience.

Ah fugetaboutit.
You fix the Oline.

:banghead:

Fire Meyer.
Into the fryer.

Back tomorrow
with another
brilliant idea...

[Topcat]

Generally agree.
Gonna get specific.
Gone. Trent Scott. Michael Schofield.
Grab. Rookie right side player. UFA. $$. Overpay for midlevel experience.

Ah fugetaboutit.
You fix the Oline.

:banghead:

Fire Meyer.
Into the fryer.

Back tomorrow
with another
brilliant idea...

Draft one OT and one OG in the first three rounds out of one of the following:

Andrew Thomas*, OT, Georgia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1

Austin Jackson*, OT, USC
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
Projected Round (2020): 1

Alex Leatherwood*, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-6. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.34.
Projected Round (2020): 1-2

Trey Adams, OT, Washington
Height: 6-7. Weight: 334.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa
Height: 6-5. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Sam Cosmi**, OT, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
Height: 6-7. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Solomon Kindley*, G, Georgia
Height: 6-4. Weight: 335.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2020): 1

Shane Lemieux, G, Oregon
Height: 6-4. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1-2

Trey Smith*, G/OT, Tennessee
Height: 6-6. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 2-3

Ben Bredeson, G, Michigan
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2020): 2-3

[jamrock]

Okung-Lamp-Quessenberry-rookie/Vet FA-Pipkins?

As much as i love Pouncey, with a neck injury and the position he plays getting hit in that area every down i doubt he returns.

Pouncey played the Chargers. He came to them and got a deal done for next year at $9m knowing that he wasn’t right. Lynn said the injury was cumulative, meaning not one thing. I think Pouncey knew he was wearing down and wanted next season’s paycheck locked in. Doubt he plays

[like54ninjas]

Draft one OT and one OG in the first three rounds out of one of the following:

Andrew Thomas*, OT, Georgia
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1

Austin Jackson*, OT, USC
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.40.
Projected Round (2020): 1

Alex Leatherwood*, OT, Alabama
Height: 6-6. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.34.
Projected Round (2020): 1-2

Trey Adams, OT, Washington
Height: 6-7. Weight: 334.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Tristan Wirfs*, OT, Iowa
Height: 6-5. Weight: 322.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Sam Cosmi**, OT, Texas
Height: 6-6. Weight: 295.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Prince Tega Wanogho, OT, Auburn
Height: 6-7. Weight: 301.
Projected 40 Time: 5.00.
Projected Round (2020): 1-3

Solomon Kindley*, G, Georgia
Height: 6-4. Weight: 335.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2020): 1

Shane Lemieux, G, Oregon
Height: 6-4. Weight: 317.
Projected 40 Time: 5.10.
Projected Round (2020): 1-2

Trey Smith*, G/OT, Tennessee
Height: 6-6. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.32.
Projected Round (2020): 2-3

Ben Bredeson, G, Michigan
Height: 6-5. Weight: 320.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2020): 2-3

Don’t just use Walter’s list.

[FoutsFan]

A realistic option is Pipkens starting next year (allowing for more development & strength in the offseason).
I honestly liked him last Thursday (based on how far he has come since his implosion in preseason). I welcome all commentary!!!
:freakout:

Lamp is another realistic option as a solid starter. He's been unfortunate - not made of glass.

Okung probably will come back....a draftee probably won't be thrown into the fire immediately.

Splurge on a quality free agent interior player....

Double dip with offensive linemen in the draft early....improve depth. A tackle should be drafted in the 1rst or 2nd round.

At center, Pouncey/Quessenberry/Feeney...one will pull through.

No need to panic!

I agree with Pipkins he did look much better. He looked better than Scott who has been around longer.