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  • Leslie Grossman
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    How awesome would it be to have Staley as the 49ers coordinator? Only thing more awesome than that would be if Bowl Cut let Tesco hire him as coordinator 😅
    Last edited by Leslie Grossman; 01-07-2025, 07:31 PM.

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    • Bolt4Knob
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      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

      lol, oh he did, now did he? love your enthusiasm!
      Oh yes, there is no doubt that jim Harbaugh had a BIG say in who the GM was going to be

      I think most every candidate they talked too had some history with Harbaugh I believe - except maybe Dawn Aponte. I think even Ian Cunningham crossed paths with Harbaugh. Dodds from Indy worked with him in Oakland; the guy from the Giants was an area scout and the area was the Big 10, of course Hortiz with the cross over with his brother in Baltimore

      For sure, no doubt, Harbaugh had a big big say in who the GM was going to be

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      • Bolt4Knob
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        Originally posted by Fouts2herbert View Post

        only one team doesn't have ownership issues...the packers continue to prove to the NFL community that you don't need an entitled out of touch rich asshole owner to be successful...
        I think the Eagles and Vikings have strong ownership groups.

        The Ravens are a model of consistency as well
        Owner
        CEO /VP type
        GM/HC

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        • dmac_bolt
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          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

          Oh yes, there is no doubt that jim Harbaugh had a BIG say in who the GM was going to be

          I think most every candidate they talked too had some history with Harbaugh I believe - except maybe Dawn Aponte. I think even Ian Cunningham crossed paths with Harbaugh. Dodds from Indy worked with him in Oakland; the guy from the Giants was an area scout and the area was the Big 10, of course Hortiz with the cross over with his brother in Baltimore

          For sure, no doubt, Harbaugh had a big big say in who the GM was going to be
          I am sure owners discussed GM candidates with Jim, getting details on who he felt he could work with, who he thought was best, who he had concerns with etc if he did. I am sure they wanted a GM that would work closely and in synch with Jim as a single "team". They lived through 2 powerful GMs that were assholes to the coach, both imploded the organization. they didn't want to hire a GM that Jim couldn't work with, agree.

          But I have never seen any reporting it was actually "OK, Jim - you select the GM all on your own for us". Rather, its shades of influence, like the discussion of the current leadership group for the hire of any new leader.

          Joe had excellent credentials he had built up separate and apart from Jim, perhaps I give more credit to Joe's excellence and reputation to stand on his own as a top candidate than you do.
          “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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          • dmac_bolt
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            Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

            I think the Eagles and Vikings have strong ownership groups.

            The Ravens are a model of consistency as well
            Owner
            CEO /VP type
            GM/HC
            LAC now has a great ownership group. It only took them 40 years to get there, not too shabby lol.
            “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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            • richpjr
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              Originally posted by Leslie Grossman View Post
              How awesome would it be to have Staley as the 49ers coordinator? Only thing more awesome than that would be if Bowl Cut let Tesco hire him as coordinator 😅
              Staley got TT fired, so I'd be shocked if the Raiders hired him.

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              • Riverwalk
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                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                Why does it have to be the GM hiring the HC - why not the HC hiring the GM. I mean, Harbaugh hired Hortiz - thats a given.

                Personally, I see the jobs as peers - same level of the org chart. Now they need to be compatible.
                Davis is just a terrible owner. Telesco was a bad hire to be GM - well he is a terrible GM. But not sure he was the right fit with Pierce.
                Depends on the organization, but if the owner is hands off, the position of GM and HC can’t be peers. One person has to be the boss, just like any other company.

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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  Originally posted by Riverwalk View Post

                  Depends on the organization, but if the owner is hands off, the position of GM and HC can’t be peers. One person has to be the boss, just like any other company.
                  This is true

                  I like the Ravens buisiness model
                  Owner
                  VP

                  My guess DeCosta and Harbaugh more report to the VP Sashi Brown than Harbaugh reporting to DeCosta. Granted, they both have worked together long enough it is a true partnership

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                    I am sure owners discussed GM candidates with Jim, getting details on who he felt he could work with, who he thought was best, who he had concerns with etc if he did. I am sure they wanted a GM that would work closely and in synch with Jim as a single "team". They lived through 2 powerful GMs that were assholes to the coach, both imploded the organization. they didn't want to hire a GM that Jim couldn't work with, agree.

                    But I have never seen any reporting it was actually "OK, Jim - you select the GM all on your own for us". Rather, its shades of influence, like the discussion of the current leadership group for the hire of any new leader.

                    Joe had excellent credentials he had built up separate and apart from Jim, perhaps I give more credit to Joe's excellence and reputation to stand on his own as a top candidate than you do.
                    No doubt Hortiz was very well qualified

                    And your wording is better than mine "shades of influence" --

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                    • dmac_bolt
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                      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                      No doubt Hortiz was very well qualified

                      And your wording is better than mine "shades of influence" --
                      Jim can be very persuasive, I can see him running circles around John, i always expected he would and will. 20 minutes in a room and John would come running out of there screaming "WE HAVE TO HIRE JOE!"

                      could have been so much shade, it was pitch black!
                      “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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                      • DerwinBosa
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                        There are rumors that Tom Brady will leave FOX and take on a bigger role with the Raiders. I personally don't think it's a good idea to have someone commentating NFL games when he's a minority owner of an NFL team. On top of that, I think Brady really sucked at FOX this year, and it was unfair of the network to push Greg Olsen down to the #2 spot. Olsen was doing a great job before Brady got into the booth this year. Olsen still is doing a great job.

                        There are also rumors that Brady will be heavily involved in the Raiders' coaching search and has reached out to Bill Belichick: https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1877037614437486596

                        I don't see Belichick wanting to work for Brady. I wouldn't put it past Belichick to leave the North Carolina Tar Heels hanging by returning to the NFL this offseason, though.
                        Skepticism around Brady completing his 10-year broadcasting deal is growing.

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                        • Bolt4Knob
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                          Originally posted by DerwinBosa View Post
                          There are rumors that Tom Brady will leave FOX and take on a bigger role with the Raiders. I personally don't think it's a good idea to have someone commentating NFL games when he's a minority owner of an NFL team. On top of that, I think Brady really sucked at FOX this year, and it was unfair of the network to push Greg Olsen down to the #2 spot. Olsen was doing a great job before Brady got into the booth this year. Olsen still is doing a great job.

                          There are also rumors that Brady will be heavily involved in the Raiders' coaching search and has reached out to Bill Belichick: https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/1877037614437486596

                          I don't see Belichick wanting to work for Brady. I wouldn't put it past Belichick to leave the North Carolina Tar Heels hanging by returning to the NFL this offseason, though.
                          I have read that Brady cannot interview candidates until after his duties with Fox are done. So post Super Bowl

                          Brady wasn't good at his job. Just not a natural. Olsen is excellent -- one of the best

                          Hopefully Brady wants to be full time owner so no more broadcasting. He won't be missed

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