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  • Heatmiser
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    • Jun 2013
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    Patriots don’t have to pay him as he was technically not on the roster due to pup. I hope this crap catches up with belicheck sometime. He does bush league stuff like this to players a lot
    Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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    • Bolt4Knob
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      Originally posted by Panamamike View Post
      31 y old corner coming off a major leg injury that wants top dollar scares the crap out of me. Too much risk
      I still prefer to spend money on OL and DL. Especially if Chris Harris comes back. I don't like it longer term. And to sign him, you are going to have to push cap in future years

      This one seems more "style" than "substance"

      Now Jaylon Smith to a minimum deal - that might make more sense of the two players released the last two days

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      • Heatmiser
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        Smith is just not that good. His injury was devastating. Good on him for making it back. But he is an average LB now.

        TG
        Like, how am I a traitor? Your team are traitors.

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        • Bolt4Knob
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          Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
          Patriots don’t have to pay him as he was technically not on the roster due to pup. I hope this crap catches up with belicheck sometime. He does bush league stuff like this to players a lot
          I just figured out the same that because he was on PUP - he doesn't count against the cap

          So he was going to restructure his contract or get released. The Patriots are left with a pretty sizable cap hit though. There is 8.5m of dead cap space that should be going on the Patriots books. They do not get out of this "scott free" though.

          I would have thought the dead money counted against the cap already and just his "salary" would not/ The dead cap is already allocated for


          EDIT: Gilmore on the PUP did count against the Patriots count but because he was on PUP, they didn't pay his game salary so releasing him they will save the pro-rated portion of the 13 games left of 7m - so 5.3m. Gilmore does count 8.5m of dead cap space. The Patriots just didn't want to pay him $7m this year and Gilmore wanted to get paid $7m

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          • Bolt4Knob
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            Originally posted by Heatmiser View Post
            Smith is just not that good. His injury was devastating. Good on him for making it back. But he is an average LB now.

            TG
            right i am not giving him more than the minimum and even probably would sign him to the PS at best.- a really cheap flier type deal

            some team will give him more than a PS contract at this point. I am okay passing on him too. I am still on a guy like Mitchell Schwartz though if he gets healthy. Thats a guy I keep an eye on

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            • like54ninjas
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              This is what TB12 and Billyboy talked about for that extended period in private.
              Gilmore will be a Buc soon enough.
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              • like54ninjas
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                Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                I still prefer to spend money on OL and DL. Especially if Chris Harris comes back. I don't like it longer term. And to sign him, you are going to have to push cap in future years

                This one seems more "style" than "substance"

                Now Jaylon Smith to a minimum deal - that might make more sense of the two players released the last two days
                Where does Jaylon Smith possibly fit on this roster?
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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                  Where does Jaylon Smith possibly fit on this roster?
                  I don't know
                  but if he is better than a current player on the roster - don't you need to try to upgrade the roster
                  or at least look it at. Especially if you can stash him on the Practice Squad. if he is done as a player, he is done as a player. but for the PS cost, I wouldn't hate it

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                  • Bolt4Knob
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                    Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post
                    This is what TB12 and Billyboy talked about for that extended period in private.
                    Gilmore will be a Buc soon enough.
                    If this were the case - why wouldn't Tampa have just sent a 2022 7th round pick for Gilmore dependent upon him restructuring his contract to fit the Bucs cap space? Which the Bucs will probably have to do to sign Gilmore.

                    To me, that would have been sneakier to get TAmpa to send a 7th for Gilmore

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                    • like54ninjas
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                      Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

                      If this were the case - why wouldn't Tampa have just sent a 2022 7th round pick for Gilmore dependent upon him restructuring his contract to fit the Bucs cap space? Which the Bucs will probably have to do to sign Gilmore.

                      To me, that would have been sneakier to get TAmpa to send a 7th for Gilmore
                      My comment was more in jest. How could I possibly know what those 2 talked about?
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                      • Bolt4Knob
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                        Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                        My comment was more in jest. How could I possibly know what those 2 talked about?
                        Gotcha - sorry. The thing is - I am sure if he ends up in Tampa this will be the conspiratorial take by many. The "league" is just doing this to help Tom Brady

                        As for the Chargers - we already have a 30+ year old CB with injury concerns. Do not need another one

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                        • CivilBolt
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                          Originally posted by Ghost of Quacksaw View Post
                          Buffalo Bills (3-1) are playing in Kansas City (2-2) this Sunday.

                          If the Chiefs don't right the ship, they could find themselves taking on some serious water.
                          I’m ok with that. Let the ship sink. They’ve been on top for too long.

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