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Baseball hasn't changed that much. Players abilities have advanced (bigger/faster/stronger) My 40+ years around the game has always seen a 2 hitter being a situational hitter. A guy w/speed who cant bunt or hit/run, he can take pitches and put the ball in play deep in counts. We have very few players that fill that need. Possibly Myers (hitting leadoff), Amarista, Gyorko, Spange. What we dont have is a stereotypical leadoff guy. But Myers is doing a good job in that roll!
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Originally posted by TBF View PostBaseball hasn't changed that much. Players abilities have advanced (bigger/faster/stronger) My 40+ years around the game has always seen a 2 hitter being a situational hitter. A guy w/speed who cant bunt or hit/run, he can take pitches and put the ball in play deep in counts. We have very few players that fill that need. Possibly Myers (hitting leadoff), Amarista, Gyorko, Spange. What we dont have is a stereotypical leadoff guy. But Myers is doing a good job in that roll!
Another strategy I haven't seen us try is picking a lineup and sticking with it.
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Originally posted by Engine Engine Number 420 View PostThe best way to do it is put the best hitters at the top of the lineup. The guys at the front get more at bats. Our first 4 or 5 hitters should be the best we got.
Another strategy I haven't seen us try is picking a lineup and sticking with it.
It would be great if we had 8 quality hitters, but that isnt realistic, so you play a numbers game and put situational baseball hitters in the 2 hole for reasons I mentioned in my previous post. Your 2 hitter should be a QAB guy that is not going to K to often, he will see pitches and can put the ball into play, move runners etc. You Don't want RBI guys (Norris, Kemp, Upton, Alonso) in there too often. Now in a perfect world, we have 8 hitters that can do it all, but as noted earlier, extremely unrealistic.
Remember baseball is all about pitching and TIMELY hitting. Batting average is such a bad stat and is an indication as to the ebb and flow of a hitter.
Our roster is full of free swinging RBI type players.
Two run double guys (we have a bunch) belong in the middle of the order. 1 & 2 are table setters IMO.
The real issue w/our team this far isn't hitting however. We quite simply have not made enough pitches at key times.
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batting average a bad stat...
In baseball you can do everything correctly - (have great timing, stay inside the ball, square it up and drive the ball) & still fail and have a statically bad game/series/week etc.
I have seen many the player do everything right and go opher night after night.
It is such a game of failure. Dealing wuth that early is where success is found. This is why only the top 1% of 1% even get a cup o' coffee w/the big club.
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Originally posted by TBF View Postbatting average a bad stat...
In baseball you can do everything correctly - (have great timing, stay inside the ball, square it up and drive the ball) & still fail and have a statically bad game/series/week etc.
I have seen many the player do everything right and go opher night after night.
It is such a game of failure. Dealing wuth that early is where success is found. This is why only the top 1% of 1% even get a cup o' coffee w/the big club.
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Originally posted by Engine Engine Number 420 View PostThe batting average last night was pretty bad. The bottom of the order was filled with guys who haven't hit yet this year. Why all these changes?
As to the lineup. I see your frustration, however we don't have a SOLID 8 and very few teams do. We have a solid 6, but your going to see movement with 80% of MLB teams w/those remaining two. Nobody has established themselves as our starting 2B or SS. I bit of a weird one yesterday w/Alonso out of the lineup, probably nursing the HBP the previous day.
The buzz saw is Solarte. He is our UT guy and is getting in the lineup 5 days a week and the changes of position isn't affecting him. This lets our supposed starters the opportunity to run into something. Jedd was in the lineup because the previous day he hit a 2 run bomb. You kinda have to put him back in there and see if its streaky.
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Originally posted by TBF View PostThen tip your hat to Bamgardner. Dude was filthy last night. Just like I noted yesterday, baseball is all about Pitching and TIMELY HITTING. Giants got both yesterday and we only go one part of the equation and that is more a credit to Bamgardner then it is a knock on us.
As to the lineup. I see your frustration, however we don't have a SOLID 8 and very few teams do. We have a solid 6, but your going to see movement with 80% of MLB teams w/those remaining two. Nobody has established themselves as our starting 2B or SS. I bit of a weird one yesterday w/Alonso out of the lineup, probably nursing the HBP the previous day.
The buzz saw is Solarte. He is our UT guy and is getting in the lineup 5 days a week and the changes of position isn't affecting him. This lets our supposed starters the opportunity to run into something. Jedd was in the lineup because the previous day he hit a 2 run bomb. You kinda have to put him back in there and see if its streaky.
And there's no way I'll be congratulating a Giant. I hate that saying - "Tip your cap." Yea, that's cool in the Little League when it's all about sportsmanship. But, in the pros, the other team should be the villain. Otherwise, what's the point of playing?Last edited by Guest; 05-05-2015, 04:43 PM.
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Originally posted by Engine Engine Number 420 View PostJees, just checked out today's game. Line-up got messed with again.
6, 7, and 8 hitters are all below .200, and we have a new leadoff hitter tonight.
If you have coached or played enough or been an active student of the game of baseball you realize that (1) baseball is not football and emotion often leads to failure. (2) the seasons are real long and (3) you tip your hat to a guy that stimies your lineup like Baumgardner did.
If you approach one-hundred sixty two like a bull dog it will wear on you real real quick. The most important trait for a big leaguer is a short memory!
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Originally posted by TBF View PostHitting isn't our issue brother (long term)... minus the last 2 games of course becuase the giants shoved it against us.
If you have coached or played enough or been an active student of the game of baseball you realize that (1) baseball is not football and emotion often leads to failure. (2) the seasons are real long and (3) you tip your hat to a guy that stimies your lineup like Baumgardner did.
If you approach one-hundred sixty two like a bull dog it will wear on you real real quick. The most important trait for a big leaguer is a short memory!
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