2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

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  • Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

    Like Jordan was on 6 Championship teams.
    Yes supporting parts but no doubt who the star is.
    It is funny that you mentioned Jordan because I was going to discuss how different Jordan (a truly dominant individual player) and Brady are. First, Jordan plays basketball, which is a 5 man sport, so any one player can have greater influence. That much is completely obvious.

    Second, Jordan's stats were dominant. He led the league in scoring in every full season he played from 1986 to 1998. Brady's production absolutely did not carry the Patriots/Bucs in at least 5 of the 7 seasons in which he was on a Super Bowl winning team. None of Brady's Super Bowl winning teams ever won a Super Bowl in a season in which the Patriots did not have a first round bye. His Tampa Bay team did, but that team was loaded and only needed some time for its young defense to gel.

    As I have already shown, Brady was an above average QB, but not great in at least 5 of the 7 seasons in question.

    Brady has been a star because that is what popular culture does to many QBs on Super Bowl winning teams. But that is exactly my point. Brady, while fully deserving of the Hall of Fame, is significantly overrated because people peg his quality of play to the number of Super Bowl winning teams on which he played, which is simply an incorrect analysis. Really, there is no other way to state that.

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    • MagicMamba88
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        Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

        Thats going to take some draft capital
        A future first and probably at worst a third this year.
        Probably would rather do a '2022 First than a 2021 second

        But - still prefer DArrisaw at 13; a top CB at 47 and call it good

        That said -- if he goes and get Sewell - thats a pretty ballsy move and it tells me, he at least knows what the top priority on the team is. LEFT DAMN TACKLE!!
        i prefer a trade down if the guy they want at 13 isn't there.

        Telesco always tries to take the easy way out instead of showing us that he can actually draft high level talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.

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        • Boltgang74
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          Damn.Sooo Darrisaw it is?

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            13. Alijah Vera-Tucker, OG, USC (6-foot-5, 308 pounds)
            Although his anchor can improve, Vera-Tucker is coordinated in pass protection and his punch connects with flat feet and natural force to win early and reset throughout the rep. He creates a surge in the run game and competes with the play personality required for the pro level. Overall, Vera-Tucker does an outstanding job centering his blocks and sustaining due to his balanced feet, strong hands and quick processing. He projects as an NFL starting guard with a Pro Bowl ceiling and tackle versatility.

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            • Bolt4Knob
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              Originally posted by MagicMamba88 View Post

              i prefer a trade down if the guy they want at 13 isn't there.

              Telesco always tries to take the easy way out instead of showing us that he can actually draft high level talent in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
              I totally agree. I think he takes the easy way out too. Gets a woody for a player and trades up, so loses draft capital. So far the results are pretty bad so between the lost draft pick and the player not really panning out - its been a bad combo.

              Do you damn job Telesco and find more than one good player

              But again, if he thinks Sewell is the answer - I can appreciate it. Left Tackle is a big void!

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              • Classic
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                Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
                Damn.Sooo Darrisaw it is?
                You wouldn't want a Zach Martin clone?

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                • Bolt4Knob
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                  Originally posted by Classic View Post

                  You wouldn't want a Zach Martin clone?
                  My hope for this draft - picking at 13 - would be an Anthony Castonzo clone. Meaning just a good solid above average NFL Left Tackle
                  But....

                  A clone of Zach Martin, plug and play OG for the next 8-10 years is a damn good draft pick. AVT makes a helluva lot more sense than a guy like Waddle would. And if the pick is AVT - I probably would be like "hell yeah, LFG!!!"

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                  • equivocation
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                    An OL is as strong as the weakest player. I'd rather have an average tackle and an average guard than a horrible tackle and a great guard.

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                    • Topcat
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                      Originally posted by Boltgang74 View Post
                      Damn.Sooo Darrisaw it is?
                      That's what Kiper thinks...he's also very high on Jenkins for us...

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                      • like54ninjas
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                        Originally posted by Topcat View Post

                        That's what Kiper thinks...he's also very high on Jenkins for us...
                        Jenkins all day everyday over Darrisaw.
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                        • Topcat
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                          Originally posted by like54ninjas View Post

                          Jenkins all day everyday over Darrisaw.
                          In fact, Kiper did say he prefers Jenkins over Darrishaw for us, but thinks TT pulls the trigger on Darrishaw:

                          Originally posted by Topcat View Post
                          I've said this before but if Penei Sewell and Rashawn Slater are off the board, my first preference would be Teven Jenkins. However, Darrisaw would be a fine selection still.
                          https://chargerswire.usatoday.com/20...nd-mock-draft/

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