2021 Draft Discussion - Bolts Pick 13th

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  • wu-dai clan
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    • May 2017
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    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

    repeat.... repeat >> Jammer @5 again, Jammer @5 again !! er.... make that J'Marr.... our next fiver.
    Right on beach.
    KA. J'Marr. EK.
    Herb has his elite weapons.
    ​​​​​​Those hogs you are famous for,
    both sides of the ball,
    will be there midrounds.
    And Eye will bang the draft table with you for them,
    ​​​​​and with serious vigor.
    We can also sneak another dynamic RB, ala De'Andre Swift, in there,
    ​​​​​to give Ekeler some company.
    Nine picks.
    Trenchers take a chill pill.
    We do not play modern football.

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    • dmac_bolt
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      • May 2019
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      Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

      I agree with a lot of what you have said here. But what should the team do if we are selecting #5 overall as we would be as of this post? The odds that Sewell is still on the board with the Bengals drafting #3 overall are pretty much zero. The next OT is rated a good 10-20 picks lower. Let's say Parsons and Surtain II are still on the board. I would say Parsons is 50/50 to be on the board at #5 overall and Surtain II is probably 95% likely to be on the board at that point.

      In that scenario, Parsons is likely the BPA, Surtain II fills a lower priority need, and OTs like Cosmi and Leatherwood are rated 10-20 picks lower. Humphrey at C seems to be rated as a late first-early second round prospect.

      While I do not necessarily disagree with your prioritization, if it were up to me, I would be hard-pressed to pass on Parsons if he were on the board at that point with Sewell gone.

      What would you do in that scenario?
      OTs are like QBs, as they tend to go higher then their rated BPA slot. If next good OT is rated #15 player, i would not expect him to actually be there at 15.

      “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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      • Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

        OTs are like QBs, as they tend to go higher then their rated BPA slot. If next good OT is rated #15 player, i would not expect him to actually be there at 15.
        Unless the OT's name is Sewell, I would not take him at #5 overall.

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        • beachcomber
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          Originally posted by Bolt4Knob View Post

          For OL - I would be happy with two guys who start for 8-10 years. They don't have to be Quenton Nelson or Zach Martin elite - but good solid NFL players - maybe Dielman or McNeill level. Is that asking too much?

          Edge - might go for the risk reward
          think there is a good chance we do a Lamp/Feeney redux day two.... lotsa solids on the lines for day two.

          OTs >> Rashawn Slater, Alex Leatherwood, Daniel Faalele
          OGs >> Trey Smith, Deonte Brown, Zion Johnson
          OC >> Creed Humphrey

          DTs >> Jay Tufele, Tyler Shelvin

          a trade down could well net us an early second in addition to the later first (by way of Jax).
          5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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          • dmac_bolt
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            Originally posted by chaincrusher View Post

            Unless the OT's name is Sewell, I would not take him at #5 overall.
            Don’t disagree with not taking a #15 guy at 5, I am just saying don’t expect #15 to be on the board at 15 if you’re trading down. Accept you’re not fixing OT in the draft, or take him around 10. Just a hunch, nobody really knows till names are called.
            “Less is more? NO NO NO - MORE is MORE!”

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            • richpjr
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              • beachcomber
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                Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                I want a deeper, better rotation up front on D.
                Tillery, JJones must come on.
                We must have impact at 3TECH.
                do we have anything in Broughton ?? am gonna say he's gonna be good depth, for if and when they plug him in.... (is he not ready yet ?)

                Tillery is a pass rush specialist who gets pressures, as not sure he's ever gonna be much help as a run stopper.

                going into next season am good w/Tillery @end and Bosa @LEO for now.... don't want to be stacking high draft picks.

                Tillery/Rochell
                Joseph/draft pick
                JJ/Cortez
                Bosa/Nwosu

                from what eye know now, won't be overly disappointed if we end up w/Rousseau (not overly enamored w/the Kwity Kat), but am leaning rolling the dice on a trade down.... (think we're over.... due)

                and a Derrick Brown woulda been nice, but can't fix it all in one draft/off season.... priority is the Oline and JH, and 'specially given that there seems to be some solids @guard this next draft ??

                don't see a whole lot @3T yet.... Tufele looks solid and your Daviyon guy looks formidable, and.... wouldn't want to look Justin (Herbert) in the eye w/JJ and Broughton on the bench for a rook, when JH10 has still got Swiss cheese in front of him.

                5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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                • wu-dai clan
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                  Originally posted by richpjr View Post
                  Slater ahead of Sewell.
                  There you have it folks.
                  Day1 starter at ORG.
                  Successor to Bulaga if he can overcome perceived short arm deficiencies at OT.
                  Duke Manyweather loves Rayshawn, and he would know,
                  as Duke has mentored the prospect.
                  I still like Darrisaw for us at ~10.
                  We do not play modern football.

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                  • ghost
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                    Originally posted by beachcomber View Post

                    think Philly is gonna drop down/move up and scoop Parsons up out from under our nose @4.... Rousseau is gonna be the next top five super Charger.
                    With the Spanos Family running the draft, I can certainly see that happening. With real GM running the draft, it wouldn't happen, IMO. The Chargers would walk away with Micah Parsons. Parsons would be be a better all-around player than Brandon Graham for the Eagles and a develop into superstar at the position.

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                    • beachcomber
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                      Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                      OTs are like QBs, as they tend to go higher then their rated BPA slot. If next good OT is rated #15 player, i would not expect him to actually be there at 15.
                      signed DJ Fluker,
                      5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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                      • beachcomber
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                        Originally posted by dmac_bolt View Post

                        Don’t disagree with not taking a #15 guy at 5, I am just saying don’t expect #15 to be on the board at 15 if you’re trading down. Accept you’re not fixing OT in the draft, or take him around 10. Just a hunch, nobody really knows till names are called.
                        don't think Tom is gonna be looking for a starter @tackle in the draft as he's got Bulaga under contract, and Sam has ascended under Capt. James.

                        what would be a good idea is to bring in a hedge against Bulaga's health and Pipkins development, not to mention Sam's for that matter.

                        given that, and given my personal leanings, would be looking for a day two tackle like Daniel Faalele, or a day three guy like Landon Young.

                        we need a starting guard.... that has to take priority over tackle, and me thinx that there is more talent @guard this go 'round than @tackle ??
                        5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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                        • beachcomber
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                          Originally posted by wu-dai clan View Post

                          Right on beach.
                          KA. J'Marr. EK.
                          Herb has his elite weapons.
                          ​​​​​​Those hogs you are famous for,
                          both sides of the ball,
                          will be there midrounds.
                          And Eye will bang the draft table with you for them,
                          ​​​​​and with serious vigor.
                          We can also sneak another dynamic RB, ala De'Andre Swift, in there,
                          ​​​​​to give Ekeler some company.
                          Nine picks.
                          Trenchers take a chill pill.
                          sorry to get your hopes up Woo.... just messin'

                          want nothin' to do w/any top shelf receiver.... think Mike Evans was the last receiver that I woulda actually wanted to draft this high, albeit did like CeeDee some last go 'round.

                          and don't see the D'Andre RB this go 'round neither.... do you ??

                          the only exception to my draft linemen early and oft.... this year, is perhaps if we trade down and Eric Stokes drops to us round two ??

                          otherwise, fill me to the brim w/the trenchmen.... bruh !!
                          5/11 Fuaga, 37 Kamari Lassiter, 40 Sinnott, 67 Bralen Trice, 69 Cedric Gray, 105 Jaylen Wright, 110 Braelon Allen, 140 Joe Milton, 181 Khristian Boyd, Tylan Grable, 225 Daijun Edwards, 253 Miyan Williams

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